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Native American Casting Scandal, Sam Uley Out?

by Will on February 1, 2009 · Comments

in Casting

starbuckstribe.jpg Has Sam Uley lost his role? Are the Native American roles being bastardized with newly realized “Native American” actors–like Taylor Lautner–that are stretching the interpretation of their heritage so they can hitch a ride on such a huge movie? Those are the tough questions that are being brought up as casting for Native Americans begins for New Moon

Native Americans are outraged over what they hold as deceptions in and around the production of the Hollywood film series “Twilight.”

With the commercial success of Twilight, Hollywood is abuzz with agents molding, fitting, and pushing their celebrity actors to pass as Native Americans.

“The Twilight Series is one of few commercial films, a script, and a story with Native American roles.” said Lydia Ponce. “It is a sad day to see that the big power agents are marketing Filipino and Asian celebrity actors to play Native Americans. These are such rare opportunities. When films like Twilight knowingly and willfully select non-Native American actors to play Native roles, it sends the message that we’re not good enough to represent ourselves.”

Not so long ago Old Western films hired Caucasian actors who were painted a brownish-red and wore wigs to portray Native peoples. Continued insult and injury further perpetuating bias, stereotypes, and racism, was so very wrong and evil then and now. Hollywood is using the tan spray and hair extensions again.

Twilight Vampire Movie Hollywood agents are instructing their talent to dig and find those ‘Native Roots’ and publicize their newfound Native American heritage in interviews conveniently in sync with current casting needs and trends.

Twilight’s lead actor Taylor Lautner, who allegedly just found his Native American roots, was given the extraordinary opportunity to play the lead in the film well after the “discovery” of his ethnicity.

In a recent MTV interview Lautner stated, “I am part Native American. We learned that through [preparing for] this film. I’m French, Dutch and German, and on my mother’s side, she has some Potawatomi and Ottawa Indian in her.”

However, in a film with such a strong Native American theme, only two actors of Native American decent were hired. But due to reasons unknown, Solomon Trimble (Apache) who played and established the character of Sam Uley, has suddenly lost his role.

Sam Uley’s character has been re-posted onto the Hollywood-casting breakdown, and it is obvious that Hollywood is now looking for a more marketable teen heartthrob celebrity actor to play the more substantial and very desirable part.

NativeVue adds

Jacob is a Native American; a member of the Quileute tribe from northwest Washington. Taylor Lautner, by contrast, is not Quileute. In fact, he’s not Navajo, Cree, Lakota, Cherokee, Mohawk, Seminole, or Ojibwa. He’s not Native at all (unless you consider his recent “discovery” of a long-ago Indian ancestor lurking in the family tree).

Yet the winsome 16-year-old from Holland is Hollywood’s idea of Quileute’s werewolf teen heartthrob. Look at it this way imagine casting Kate Bosworth as Celie in The Color Purple.

The part about Sam Uley is speculation at this point, but it does seem odd that he was posted in the leaked casting notes recently. TwiCrack has two great articles about these controversies here and here.
What do you guys think? Sound off in the comments!

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  • gracemay
    I get that everyone will be a little ticked off that the parts for the quilettes might not be played by actors of pure NA ethnicity, but when it comes down to it the part of Bella could have been played by a girl of english, australia etc... as long as be she looks a little like the part and can act should it really matter?
    Taylor Lautner is a great actor and atleast has some sort of NA in him.
    P.S Edward Cullen is american is the book, he is being played by Robert Pattinson who is a British actor, I don't see anyone complaining!
  • kitkat2000
    Man! I am glad to find out that other people are a bit ticked off about this. I have been whining to my roomies for about a week and they don't think its a big deal. The character is native american, so find a native american to play him! There have to be decent native americans out and about in hollywood!
    I loved Jacob in the book more than I did Edward, so yeah, I want it to be right.
  • kupfergruen
    First, I´m not a native english speaker, or writer, so - sorry, for mistakes and errors - or enjoy it, however ;-).

    I googled "native americans vs twilight" very early in the morning and was very surprised: what is so wrong to use only a part of legends? I serged and googled: no original native americans as the "Wolfpack". Okay, I thought: that’s not nice, but this should´nt be a problem, as long they look alike?
    And then I found many entries about this and thought about it: it woud´nt be a problem, when this world were perfect. If never people were killed for beeing what they are, if never racism colored everithing the most white people know about, think is right about Native American. And now: actors, who are not native americans, color the way, people all other the world will think, native americans look!!!! Horrible!!!!
    So, yes it isn´t ridicoulus to camplain about. It is very necessary to camplain and to protest. It´s the only chance to get human rights and equity for all people, no matter which ancestors color your skin.
    Sorry for the "dramatic writing" ;-)
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    You know I read through the comments and commented here and there but one thing is for sure...It is just a movie. Coming from someone native who actually loved the series, I felt like I was cheated (seriously the actors really didn't deliver the emotion). Remember people Twilighters are all races and ethnicities. When we read the book we insert our views and perceptions into it. For instance, I was disappointed in Taylor because you can tell he is a "fake" native because I have 10 first cousins around that age that he doesn't look a darn thing like. My cousins range from 6'1 to 6'3, big, brown, football players. *lol* So of course Taylor looks like a cute lil shrimp. I agree with most that if Native Americans want the parts then they should go for it and don't expect someone to hand it to them. You gotta be able to do the job. Next, it's not about the money that has Natives up in arms. It's about respect. I hoped that we were over those John Wayne movies where he kills an entire tribe (mostly white extras with painted skin and wigs) with one bullet. Most of you probably don't realize the blacklash against the native culture. In fact i'm sure of it because about 50% of you stated that you would fine with an Asian or Filipino playing the Native parts. Again, you forget that the fan base contains Natives can spot a fake. Is that fair to them? That's the problem with society today...ignorance (lack of knowledge). Most of you would be fine with how a Native is depicted even if it is false, but our culture won't allow us to think that way. Most of you wouldn't be ok with an assumption that all whites are white supremists. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and in 50 years this movie will not matter. It will probably be remade in 10 years anyway. Natives are grossly underrepresented and are still struggling even in today's culture to find themselves.
  • twigirl
    Who cares whether they are NA it is a movie...that's what actors are for...do they have to find REAL VAMPIRES to play the VAMPIRES...these movies don't owe anyone anything if NAs want to make a movie about NAs whose stopping them....Hollywood can cast whoever they want in a role, if you don't want to see it don't go see it.....honestly who would know the difference anyway....again ACTING!!!!!
  • Me, as a native american (Navajo).. i think its important for native americans to represent native americans..(well taylor is the exception, he really does look like a native & has that wolf face).. u can't deny it.. he's perfect for the role.. as well as the main cast of "Twilight".. but as for the wolf pack i think Solomon should've been recast.. he could've bulked up for the role!.. but all n all. hollywood will do as they please.. still cant wait for the movie to be out!!
  • Anna
    Taylor does not look Native American! I'm Native American also (Navajo), and from the places that I've traveled including other Reservations. I don't know where you would see that. I've also went to school with a variety of other Native Americans, and no he does not look Native American.
  • SlehmAniwodi
    You are correct Anna. They could have done a much better job of their selections (actors). Plus, our Native Americans will be much bigger in following movie(movies). Jacob is bulking up, but, what about the height issue. They were not thinking ahead or did not realize the following these books had before they decided to do the movie.
  • SlehmAniwodi
    I agree on the height issue. It is going to be weird for him and the other Quileutes just to bulk up and not go to 6' 5" or a little less for some. Jacob had a small roll in the first movie. We will see how he does in the second. I don't know if I want to see the movie. The book was so good and hollywood is going to destroy my image of the people in the book. Our minds image is a great thing to hold on to. They will take our money and not worry about accuracy. The 4th addition was my favorite. What will they do to it.
  • Zephyr
    Personally I think Christian Kane should play Sam Uley.
    He played amazingly in "Into the West"
  • Eric Schweig
    Who cares? It's a shitty movie in a series of shitty movies adapted froma shitty series of books! LOL!
  • ...
    that is so not fair! he has every right to play the part of sam uley! i think he deserves it! let him play!
  • Reyna
    I would like to see Eddie Spears play the role and he is Native American
  • How would you feel if your people were undermined for hundreds of years? Cast as savages and alcoholics? Not very good I would think. Now, the fact that the casting directors couldn't find a handful of Native American actors to play the part is absurd. What? Did those asshats think we got our screen time in Dances With Wolves? Appaling. After reading through the comments I seen a few that just pissed me off. "As long as they look the part!" I read. So its all superficial is it? In movies if there is a Hispanic part, they ALWAYS find a Hispanic actor, if theres an African American role in the movie, they ALWAYS find an African American actor. Am I getting my point across just yet? Hm. Maybe its my fault that my people can't find roles in movies. Yeah, its my fault for letting this happen on my watch. Darn. I'll just go practice some New Age Mysticism.
  • twigirl
    Robert Pattinson is not of the race he is playing in Little Ashes....come on! Are you seriously saying that no one has ever played a different race in movies but Native Americans??? I think you better do some research!!
  • How would you feel if your people were undermined for hundreds of years? Cast as savages and alcoholics? Not very good I would think. Now, the fact that the casting directors couldn't find a handful of Native American actors to play the part is absurd. What? Did those asshats think we got our screen time in Dances With Wolves? Appaling. After reading through the comments I seen a few that just pissed me off. "As long as they look the part!" I read. So its all superficial is it? In movies if there is a Hispanic part, they ALWAYS find a Hispanic actor, if theres an African American role in the movie, they ALWAYS find an African American actor. Am I getting my point across just yet? Hm. Maybe its my fault that my people can't find roles in movies. Yeah, its my fault for letting this happen on my watch. Darn. I'll just go practice some New Age Mysticism.
  • SlehmAniwodi
    These were great books. It is best to have great actors. Not chosen because of race. We have had some excellent Native American actors in the past. Few, but they were excellent.
  • Anna
    Well if that is true than thay should have picked better actors for Edward and Bella!!
  • SlehmAniwodi
    These were great books. It is best to have great actors. Not chosen because of race. We have had some excellent Native American actors in the past. Few, but they were excellent.
  • snooze
    one of my friends is an acting coach and one of his students is auditioning, and is apparently a front runner for the role, he is actually native american, not sure exactly from what tribe but i know he is 100% native american, they just need a bigger sam because he becomes humongous in the second book, and the other guy couldnt bulk up.
  • snooze
    one of my friends is an acting coach and one of his students is auditioning, and is apparently a front runner for the role, he is actually native american, not sure exactly from what tribe but i know he is 100% native american, they just need a bigger sam because he becomes humongous in the second book, and the other guy couldnt bulk up.
  • NW
    there are a ton of NW tribes and i am sure, if they tried, they could find some hidden talent with in these tribes. whats the harm in holding open auditions in the NW for native american actors only? Whats the worst that can happen? Not find any native actors? then they are right back where they started, casting white people with a tan.
  • NW
    there are a ton of NW tribes and i am sure, if they tried, they could find some hidden talent with in these tribes. whats the harm in holding open auditions in the NW for native american actors only? Whats the worst that can happen? Not find any native actors? then they are right back where they started, casting white people with a tan.
  • mronay
    I'm about to go nuts waiting for them to let us know who is casted for what already!! lol!
  • mronay
    I'm about to go nuts waiting for them to let us know who is casted for what already!! lol!
  • kellaismyedward
    lol jane is dark and aro is pale white and jane is like a gf to aro hence why they kiss!
  • Andrea
    You know what...Summit just wants more money, more marketing, that's it! Why take Sam out when he already earned the role already? please just stop making up excuses to cover that, if he wsn't a good actor then why the hell would the casting director let him have the role....for those of you who said that was the reason, guess what, that was mostly not probable to happen because her earned it for a reason.I am not NN but it makes me angry how hollywood is more interested in hiring people with pretty faces instead of talent, seriosly it's all marketing. Now I guess they will look for a better looking and muscular Sam.I though Salomon was perfect for the role. NN have good actors and an opportunity is given to them, then why look in other places?Is like me wanting an orange but try to replace it with an apple. Anyway I hope they try to do fair castings and whoever acts better get the role.

    PS:can't wait till New Moon comes out=D
  • Andrea
    You know what...Summit just wants more money, more marketing, that's it! Why take Sam out when he already earned the role already? please just stop making up excuses to cover that, if he wsn't a good actor then why the hell would the casting director let him have the role....for those of you who said that was the reason, guess what, that was mostly not probable to happen because her earned it for a reason.I am not NN but it makes me angry how hollywood is more interested in hiring people with pretty faces instead of talent, seriosly it's all marketing. Now I guess they will look for a better looking and muscular Sam.I though Salomon was perfect for the role. NN have good actors and an opportunity is given to them, then why look in other places?Is like me wanting an orange but try to replace it with an apple. Anyway I hope they try to do fair castings and whoever acts better get the role.


    PS:can't wait till New Moon comes out=D
  • dont think solomon would be a good actor for sam, hes meant to be big and strong rite? to me, solomon doesnt potray that at all.

    cant wait for new moon :):)
  • native_moohn
    You know, I don't see any reason why all of the Native roles in New Moon and the following films shouldn't go to Native actors. I've seen plenty of movies with REAL Natives in them and damn it they were good. Good actors, good films. Anyone ever heard of Skins? Medicine River? Smoke Signals, for crying out loud?!?! Black Cloud, even!!! There are way more than those...made BY NDNs for NDNs.... So I know for a fact that there are some NATIVE AMERICAN actors out there...they're getting overlooked and it's pissing me off.
  • dont think solomon would be a good actor for sam, hes meant to be big and strong rite? to me, solomon doesnt potray that at all.


    cant wait for new moon :):)
  • mronay
    Wow, who are you to say what should upset whom? I respect your opinion, however I do not have to agree with it. I do not think Taylor has an NDN nose, but, I never have been a "hater." Of course Gil Birmingham's skin color and features were different than Solomon's and Krys's, turns out, they aren't from the same tribes, nor are they triplets! My sister and I have the same parents but our skin tones aren't exactly the same shade of brown, nor are all of our features the same. So I am not a hundred percent sure why that matters. You are a rude, thanks.
  • And Then There was 1
    I still maintain that this is all Stephanie' Meyer's fault.

    With that said, I won't be a bit surprised to see all of the Native American roles go to Hispanics, Asians, and Hawaiians (nothing against those of you who decend from those cultures...). The book is written by a white lady, the director and producer are white. All of these people have probably never met a real NA before these movies.

    I wonder how people would feel if someone like Katie Leung ("Cho" in the Harry Potter movies) or Rhianna was cast as Bella just because they claimed a little caucasian in them (hypathetically).
  • And Then There was 1
    I still maintain that this is all Stephanie' Meyer's fault.


    With that said, I won't be a bit surprised to see all of the Native American roles go to Hispanics, Asians, and Hawaiians (nothing against those of you who decend from those cultures...). The book is written by a white lady, the director and producer are white. All of these people have probably never met a real NA before these movies.



    I wonder how people would feel if someone like Katie Leung ("Cho" in the Harry Potter movies) or Rhianna was cast as Bella just because they claimed a little caucasian in them (hypathetically).
  • Mrs. Jackson
    and I'm telling you that, that is not as upsetting as people make it seem an actor not getting a role because his/her upbrining...come on.
    no I don't think brown people look the same Indians (from India) have a distinct unique look I can tell them apart from N-A NDNS ppsh. Actually in Cheaper by the Dozen it was not just his skin color but also his peculiar features (nose eyes shaped teeth) I thought he was native hawaiian even though N-A would have been my 1st guess but because I never see N-A participate in mainstream TV that was the only reason I doupt it. But seeing Twighlight I thought your Native actor Gil Birmingham skin color & featurewise looks different from solomon & kris so...I don't know why people are Not making a big deal out of that just because they were raised in this "way of life" whateva. I bet if Taylor was raised in this "way of life" people would shut up about it & not even mention it regardless of how much % native blood one has.

    P.S Taylor is exactly how I pictured Jacob + his character that's why I'm behind him 100% I will run over all the haters
  • mronay
    Congratulations on assuming I am an idiot. I didn't say I think they should cast based on that. I said that is why it is upsetting! And actually, I don't think Taylor looks Native, he is brown, but I suppose all brown people look the same so... He is a wonderful actor and sure, is native. However, they claim that now their goal is to hire natives, and to a lot of us, that includes more than just the blood. I was merely giving another look into why Natives might be so "outraged." I don't mean to down Taylor, he is not exactly what i imagined, but I think his interpretation, which truly is the most important, of Jacob is spot on!
  • Mrs. Jackson
    LOL that's what I was getting at with you people who are "outrage" cause he was not raised in this "way of life" sorry sweety Hollywood does not work that way I guess you didn't get the memo Casting Directors don't look at an actor's culture/upbringing it's actually the least important thing when casting roles. If you look the part and can act You get the part. They're are not going to be calingl tribe headquarters to get the seal of approval to see if this person was raised in the culture or not How limited would that be for the casting directors if this were the case. Many Natives stray off to mainstream society & marry. I believe Taylor has native blood % really does not matter. Does he look Native? Yes. Can he act? Yes beautifully He's perfect
    Now Solomon I don't think he looks like a Sam at all. Can he act? appearently Not....Next
  • yeah
    A child? have you not seen his recent video of him Omg his body He's a man I find myself googling over him even though I'm 21!!! hahaha
  • mronay
    I think what a lot of people forget is that being Native American is MORE than your mom havign some potawattami in her! It's more than having brown skin. native is a way of life and being just as muchas it is blood. So, that's why it makes it hard for us to have a guy, who just realized he has got some indian in him , taking this big role. White people, adn even Native people who don't know this way don't get that. The blood doesn't make you native!
  • Mrs. Jackson
    LOL that's what I was getting at with you people who are "outrage" cause he was not raised in this "way of life" sorry sweety Hollywood does not work that way I guess you didn't get the memo Casting Directors don't look at an actor's culture/upbringing it's actually the least important thing when casting roles. If you look the part and can act You get the part. They're are not going to be calingl tribe headquarters to get the seal of approval to see if this person was raised in the culture or not How limited would that be for the casting directors if this were the case. Many Natives stray off to mainstream society & marry. I believe Taylor has native blood % really does not matter. Does he look Native? Yes. Can he act? Yes beautifully He's perfect
    Now Solomon I don't think he looks like a Sam at all. Can he act? appearently Not....Next
  • mronay
    Congratulations on assuming I am an idiot. I didn't say I think they should cast based on that. I said that is why it is upsetting! And actually, I don't think Taylor looks Native, he is brown, but I suppose all brown people look the same so... He is a wonderful actor and sure, is native. However, they claim that now their goal is to hire natives, and to a lot of us, that includes more than just the blood. I was merely giving another look into why Natives might be so "outraged." I don't mean to down Taylor, he is not exactly what i imagined, but I think his interpretation, which truly is the most important, of Jacob is spot on!
  • Mrs. Jackson
    and I'm telling you that, that is not as upsetting as people make it seem an actor not getting a role because his/her upbrining...come on.
    no I don't think brown people look the same Indians (from India) have a distinct unique look I can tell them apart from N-A NDNS ppsh. Actually in Cheaper by the Dozen it was not just his skin color but also his peculiar features (nose eyes shaped teeth) I thought he was native hawaiian even though N-A would have been my 1st guess but because I never see N-A participate in mainstream TV that was the only reason I doupt it. But seeing Twighlight I thought your Native actor Gil Birmingham skin color & featurewise looks different from solomon & kris so...I don't know why people are Not making a big deal out of that just because they were raised in this "way of life" whateva. I bet if Taylor was raised in this "way of life" people would shut up about it & not even mention it regardless of how much % native blood one has.
    P.S Taylor is exactly how I pictured Jacob + his character that's why I'm behind him 100% I will run over all the haters
  • mronay
    Wow, who are you to say what should upset whom? I respect your opinion, however I do not have to agree with it. I do not think Taylor has an NDN nose, but, I never have been a "hater." Of course Gil Birmingham's skin color and features were different than Solomon's and Krys's, turns out, they aren't from the same tribes, nor are they triplets! My sister and I have the same parents but our skin tones aren't exactly the same shade of brown, nor are all of our features the same. So I am not a hundred percent sure why that matters. You are rude, thanks.
  • mronay
    I like you cuz you said INDN, where i come from it's NDN, but i like you!!! lol!
  • mronay
    I think what a lot of people forget is that being Native American is MORE than your mom havign some potawattami in her! It's more than having brown skin. native is a way of life and being just as muchas it is blood. So, that's why it makes it hard for us to have a guy, who just realized he has got some indian in him , taking this big role. White people, adn even Native people who don't know this way don't get that. The blood doesn't make you native!
  • ShelbymlRose
    Native americans usually don't act because of how hard it would be to get a part in films right now all movies have wanted since forever are small, white, people to play people from California and ...stuff.
  • ShelbymlRose
    Native americans usually don't act because of how hard it would be to get a part in films right now all movies have wanted since forever are small, white, people to play people from California and ...stuff.
  • ShelbymlRose
    Honestly I think it is just because Native Americans are a bit bigger than most. but still you can't fake it so don't try!.
  • redsmkg313
    i dont know what book you were readin because jane is pale and blonde dakota fanning would be perfect but i dont like soloman trimble he is weird looking
  • anen87
    I totally agree with you as well
  • yaz_c
    Eddie Spears would be excellent as Jacob if not then at least Sam. He is Native American, gorgeous and talented. As a Navajo myself I am so tired of casting other races in Native American parts. It is just one step away from the white actors in westerns with brown face paint. I am really disappointed in the casting of the Natives in this movie. I love the twilight series books and am excited about the movies. Plea from a fan: cast Native American parts with Native Americans. Bella isn't played by an African American actress, see what I mean. One last thing Jacob shouldn't be played by a child he needs to be played by someone Bella could fall in love with.
  • MireilleMasen
    Sorry my friend told me he wasn't.
  • Caroline
    I completely agree with Jo. I would love to see real NA playing the NA roles, but only if they can actually act. If Native Americans really want to be in the movie, all they have to do is have the skills and audition. The casting director even specifically put out there they she is looking for Native Americans and that if you aren't NA, your efforts might be a complete waste because it is their GOAL to cast Native Americans in those parts. I just think it's total B.S. that someone like Taylor (or even myself since I auditioned for Emily recently and I'm only PART Cherokee) would get so much flack for not being 100% or registered with a tribe. Just because we aren't full NA, doesn't mean we don't care about our heritage. I may not have grown up on a reservation, but I'm not going to ignore my NA heritage just because someone else doesn't think I qualify.
  • anen87
    I totally agree with you as well
  • kristenISbella
    I agree, It would be a perfect world if they could fin Native Americans who looke the part and could act it too. The fact of the mater is that it is easier to find a person who can act and then make them look the part through make up and camera tricks than it is to make some who looks the part act well. Their first priority is to find ppl who can tell the story, beyond that the rest will fall in to place. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to cast the real thing, but the critics act like the cup runith over. There might not be enough Native Americans that are talented enough to play the roles. But, I'm just an actor not a casting director so Idk what the real story is.
  • kristenISbella
    I agree, It would be a perfect world if they could fin Native Americans who looke the part and could act it too. The fact of the mater is that it is easier to find a person who can act and then make them look the part through make up and camera tricks than it is to make some who looks the part act well. Their first priority is to find ppl who can tell the story, beyond that the rest will fall in to place. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to cast the real thing, but the critics act like the cup runith over. There might not be enough Native Americans that are talented enough to play the roles. But, I'm just an actor not a casting director so Idk what the real story is.
  • Caroline
    I completely agree with Jo. I would love to see real NA playing the NA roles, but only if they can actually act. If Native Americans really want to be in the movie, all they have to do is have the skills and audition. The casting director even specifically put out there they she is looking for Native Americans and that if you aren't NA, your efforts might be a complete waste because it is their GOAL to cast Native Americans in those parts. I just think it's total B.S. that someone like Taylor (or even myself since I auditioned for Emily recently and I'm only PART Cherokee) would get so much flack for not being 100% or registered with a tribe. Just because we aren't full NA, doesn't mean we don't care about our heritage. I may not have grown up on a reservation, but I'm not going to ignore my NA heritage just because someone else doesn't think I qualify.
  • yellow
    especially if krys were to play embry. he towers over solomon.
  • Kiowa
    yeah man! now that's what I'm talking about!
    Jo, you spoke your mind and the mind speaks the best!
  • homemade_fishfry
    yes! totally dude! i remember when everyone was all "OMG!!! i can't believe they cast the kid from shark boy and lava girl in my movie! i will never watch it!!" then after the movie premiered they changed to "OMG!!! we love tlauttz!!! if they don't bring him back i'll never watch new noon!!!"


    my point is it doesn't friggin matter what the outcome is, 2 seconds after they see the new sam in the new movie they'll be screaming "solomon who?"
  • Kiowa
    Yeah, just what we want, to be exploited some more in our own land! pfft! Look those of us who want to act will go of the land and go pursue it wherever it is best pursued. No need for them to come on to our lands and hunt us out!
    but hey that may just be my opinion, since i am a bit of a hot head sometimes
  • Kiowa
    meant to say
    What are we some Native Americans R Us store where you can pick and choose from!

    said my peace, take a puff and pass it on

    Peace
  • Kiowa
    Oh man, come on!


    What are some Native Americans R Us store where you can pick and choose from!

    I think we can do better than moan and gripe just because some sci-fi movie didn't choose us for parts in their movie!



    We have way better things worth being remembered for!



    Just leave the people involved with decisions or who are already signed to do this movie alone man.



    Got nothing against that Movie Franchise, I kind of like it as a matter of fact, I think its cool with the mythical creatures fighting it out.



    I think it could be bad ass if we just focus on that fact instead of Nationality and what not.



    It's a Damn movie. Let's make our mark some other more meaningful way.
  • Ang
    Since many are on reservations and mainly keep to themselves, i wonder if they actually went to these reservations to talk to the teens and parents there.We have ALOT of indian reservations in America people, did they go to them all?
  • Ang
    AMEN!!! Cant fake true native!!! Even if the native american indians are smaller in number compared to some, there are still more than enough to chose from!!
  • Heather
    honestly, i'm glad that they are recasting Sam Uley's role. I do hope it goes to another true native american. but he wasn't big enough in twilight movie. embry was taller than sam and sam is supposed to already be a werewolf. so he should have been huge. there was just no way he could have been cast for the further roles.
  • anen87
    (Applause) Well Said
  • lee
    WOOOOHOOOOO Jo! you win best comment:) if speaking thru a true native american heart
  • bella cullen wannabe
    come on! give taylor a break. yes, it is obviously true that most of the quileutes should be played by native americans, but as a hugely vital character, jacob needs to be portrayed by an experienced, seasoned actor. although they could have found a native american for his role, they picked taylor. all the speculation in the world won't change that. stephenie meyer seems to think he did a good job, as do i, so thats that. taylor did a wonderful job with this role, so does his ethnicity really matter? its not like he was making a mockery of native american culture, he simply wore tanner and extensions for a part. is that really so terrible? one character. one actor. stop crying about it. i am a direct descendent of a native american, cherokee, to be exact, and i see no huge disgrace in the matter. taylor deserves an applause, not a debate, and i couldnt imagine any other jacob.
  • lalala
    what??? he didn't wear a tanner he has been that color since birth check it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRT38HW3duc
    the only thing fake were his extensions cause his hair wouldn't grow fast enough
    anyway he is the perfect Jacob Black just how I pictured him down to his perfect smile

    now Solomon Trimble is not how I invision Sam he suppose to be a Tall dark musceled leader and ST ain't that he can't act for the bigger role that awaits for NM. I want this to be a good movie so hopefully they'll get real actors not inexperienced extras
  • hisgoldeneyes
    Seriously? People need to get their minds straight. These people don't realize how bad they're hurting others with REAL native American backgrounds. You just can't take someone tan them, add hair extensions and call them native American. I can't believe Solomon Trimble was dropped. I think he would make a sweet Sam Uley. I mean Sam's the pack leader [for now] and he has this cool sort of kind thing going on. I think that Solomon Trimble could have fit that.
  • lalala
    well he is not dark enough musceled & tall enough to be Sam and most importantly he Can't act he is not an actor!!!!
  • Heather
    honestly, i'm glad that they are recasting Sam Uley's role. I do hope it goes to another true native american. but he wasn't big enough in twilight movie. embry was taller than sam and sam is supposed to already be a werewolf. so he should have been huge. there was just no way he could have been cast for the further roles.
  • lalala
    what??? he didn't wear a tanner he has been that color since birth check it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRT38HW3duc

    the only thing fake were his extensions cause his hair wouldn't grow fast enough

    anyway he is the perfect Jacob Black just how I pictured him down to his perfect smile



    now Solomon Trimble is not how I invision Sam he suppose to be a Tall dark musceled leader and ST ain't that he can't act for the bigger role that awaits for NM. I want this to be a good movie so hopefully they'll get real actors not inexperienced extras
  • DragonKing
    Thanks. I just don't see the point in denying someone a part because they aren't a member of a certain ethnic group or giviing someone the part over someone else because they are.
  • lalala
    He lost the role because #1 he does not look native enough #2 he won't cut his long hair and (the most important) #3 He CAN'T act
  • moriah
    i thought solomon is a Native American. what is he then???? and why would it matter now taylor isnt really native american and hes still in. not that im mad bout that but if they change the characters now ima get really P.Oed i hate when that happens it confuses me. its wo wrong
  • sokerhead
    Only 3 of the main roles were given to U.S. indians All the others were all indians from Mexico can you tell the difference? no cause they're the same race. The word Hispanic is an improper name given to these people of indigenous origin it's like calling the U.S. indians Angloten because they speak english & have english names. watch this vdo
    Mexica(pronounced Me-shee-ka) not Latino not Hispanic vdo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7eDBcjxug

    U.S. indians and indians in Mexico are the same Race niether people from both sides were complaining about the Apocalypto roles
  • And Then There was 1
    You know, none of this would even be an issue if Stephanie Meyer hadn't written about something she had no real knowledge of.

    I know, I know "It's Fiction... blahblahblah". Just because it's fiction, it doesn't give you the right to dictate how other people are represented. I'm Native American & I'm not going to write a book about Asians being shapeshifters that fight off zombies from Russia. why didn't she make up some fictional tribe. She could have used a different race...

    Don't get me wrong, I like the stories... but she should have known there would be backlash from the Native communities. It's not about money (for you freaks who thing so), it's about how you are portrayed to the rest of the world especially with a huge movie like this. Why get rid of someone who's actually from the Pacific NW and replace him with a Puerto Rican or Hispanic actor?
  • anen87
    True. but Mayan and Aztec are tribes like cherokee, Lakota ect. different tribes but They are the SAME enthnicity & race: Native-American indians they are all Indigenous indians of America (the continent) and NO One was complaining because it's not like they were casting people of a different race.


    INDNS from Canada (they call them aborinies/first nation people) always play U.S. Native-American roleslike in the movie Skins but no one complains cause they are all the same race just from a different area or tribe.
  • Tiana_7
    Karen:
    THANK YOU SOMEONE TALKING WITH SOME SENSE!

    lol.
  • Jo
    So this is coming from a full blooded native american who has read and loves all the books. I would like to see more natives in the movie, but only if they can act. I really didn't like the way the natives were depicted in the first movie anyway, I mean I would never were a full length jacket that resembles a blanket on a normal day out, neither would anyone in my family. So with that said, everyone has to remember it's Hollywood, what else do we expect, if Natives want the roles they need to get out there and make it happen like everyone else. If you have a dream, then you do what you can to make it happen....so if you saw the casting for the twilight movies and didn't do anything about, that's your fault. Don't wait for it to be a blockbuster to finally pull out the race flag. I knew there were natives in the book, and if I had any acting ability I would have put myself out there to get a part, so Natives should work a little harder and not play victim. There I'm done
  • Kiowa
    yeah man! now that's what I'm talking about!
    Jo, you spoke your mind and the mind speaks the best!
  • anen87
    (Applause) Well Said
  • lee
    WOOOOHOOOOO Jo! you win best comment:) if speaking thru a true native american heart
  • bella cullen wannabe
    come on! give taylor a break. yes, it is obviously true that most of the quileutes should be played by native americans, but as a hugely vital character, jacob needs to be portrayed by an experienced, seasoned actor. although they could have found a native american for his role, they picked taylor. all the speculation in the world won't change that. stephenie meyer seems to think he did a good job, as do i, so thats that. taylor did a wonderful job with this role, so does his ethnicity really matter? its not like he was making a mockery of native american culture, he simply wore tanner and extensions for a part. is that really so terrible? one character. one actor. stop crying about it. i am a direct descendent of a native american, cherokee, to be exact, and i see no huge disgrace in the matter. taylor deserves an applause, not a debate, and i couldnt imagine any other jacob.
  • olg06
    LOL I know hugh they're shown like all shy with their head bowed down and all covered up.
    I have a beautiful friend she's not shy to show some flesh not afraid to be sexy and she's proud to be Native INDN

    that "mystical" thing is a stereotype many of native friends hate that view of them. gosh they're real people just like you and me
  • olg06
    homemade_fishfry you took the words out of my mouth
  • hisgoldeneyes
    Seriously? People need to get their minds straight. These people don't realize how bad they're hurting others with REAL native American backgrounds. You just can't take someone tan them, add hair extensions and call them native American. I can't believe Solomon Trimble was dropped. I think he would make a sweet Sam Uley. I mean Sam's the pack leader [for now] and he has this cool sort of kind thing going on. I think that Solomon Trimble could have fit that.
  • olg06
    Luke thanks for that example also Tyler Christopher is "Real NA" (but does not look pure Native) I know many so called "Native Americans" do not look pure Native at all; they're merely "Real Natives" because they were raised in the culture/Registered tribe members. Taylor is not registered or raised in the culture. He does have some NA ancestry (% really does not matter). Does he look native? Yes. Can he act? Yes. Well You got the part. FYI Casting Directors don't care for the actor's upbringing/culture when casting roles.
    P.S. I agree with Solomon's re-cast he can't act. Sam has a big role in NM and I want this movie to be great.
  • ml
    okay, i'm part native american (1/3 creek) and this is just ridiculous. it would be cool to have someone that is native american play the roles, but it's not a big deal if they aren't. edward is played by a brit, and edward isn't british. laurent isn't black in the book. i wholeheartedly agree with the casting decisions for both characters. sam's part couldn't have been established by one line: "the cullen's don't come here." sorry. he's not sam to me.
  • olg06
    Taylor never said he was NA actor he just said he has some NA ancestry he is Part again Part (nothing wrong with that) he also claimed german, dutch, & french too O.K. And I'm pretty sure Jessica Alba is also part NA from her mexican side Mexican is merely a nationality there's a lot of indians there too idiots. But again no one is just NA as long as you're Registered in some Tribe & raised in the culture you're consider a "Real Native-American Indian" even if you're only 1/6, 1/8, 1/14
  • kberry37
    I think everyone seems to forget that is was very difficult to find Native American "Actors" for the Twilight movie, they cant make people audition, plus keep in mind they are looking for "ACTORS", you cant just get some joe off the street who cant act just because they are native american.
  • Ang
    Since many are on reservations and mainly keep to themselves, i wonder if they actually went to these reservations to talk to the teens and parents there.We have ALOT of indian reservations in America people, did they go to them all?
  • Kiowa
    Yeah, just what we want, to be exploited some more in our own land! pfft! Look those of us who want to act will go of the land and go pursue it wherever it is best pursued. No need for them to come on to our lands and hunt us out!
    but hey that may just be my opinion, since i am a bit of a hot head sometimes
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    You wouldn't be a native if you weren't a little on the hot head side *lol*.
    We are best known for our sense of humor and our attitude! *lol*
  • Willeke
    Exactly! If there were many NA actors they could use for the Twilight movie, they would have used them, but there aren't many NA actors. And I agree that they can't just pick someone, because he's NA. This person needs to act too. And that requires certain skills.
  • olg06
    LOL you dumb it's the Cloak
  • Anonymous
    so true. i cannot believe people are having a problem with this!?! it's like, ur only complaining because Twilight is a big deal.
  • Anonymous
    yeah i completely agree. after reading the books, i looked up the Quileute tribe, and she unfortunately didn't do that much research on their culture. I mean, it IS fiction, but i was wondering y she didnt just make up some tribe; i also wonder if she just picked some random tribe to write about or if she was like "oh i've heard of the quileutes i'll include them in my story" either way she should have realized that in the US especially, people tend to get alittle jumpy about racial issues and misrepresentation
  • Anonymous
    just to let you know, jane is a pale as a sheet and with light brown hair.... so yeah dakota would be fine physically in my opinion
  • ShelbymlRose
    Honestly I find it insulting that they don't choose Native American actors -being 100% Navajo- it's ridiculous. But they shouldn't change actors now just continue with who they have and add some during the 2nd and 3rd movie. NATIVE AMERICANS NOT FILLIPINOS AND ASIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACIAL STRUCTURE. I am 100% positive that they will be able to find enough native americans to fill the role hell I'd do it for free if they gave me the shot. Honestly Native American roles need to be made with native americans just like white with white and so on!!!!!!!!!!! yes, I'm going to stop now so I don't say anything I will regret later.
  • Ang
    AMEN!!! Cant fake true native!!! Even if the native american indians are smaller in number compared to some, there are still more than enough to chose from!!
  • ShelbymlRose
    Honestly I think it is just because Native Americans are a bit bigger than most. but still you can't fake it so don't try!.
  • Kiowa
    Oh man, come on!

    What are some Native Americans R Us store where you can pick and choose from!
    I think we can do better than moan and gripe just because some sci-fi movie didn't choose us for parts in their movie!

    We have way better things worth being remembered for!

    Just leave the people involved with decisions or who are already signed to do this movie alone man.

    Got nothing against that Movie Franchise, I kind of like it as a matter of fact, I think its cool with the mythical creatures fighting it out.

    I think it could be bad ass if we just focus on that fact instead of Nationality and what not.

    It's a Damn movie. Let's make our mark some other more meaningful way.
  • Kiowa
    meant to say
    What are we some Native Americans R Us store where you can pick and choose from!
    said my peace, take a puff and pass it on
    Peace
  • And Then There was 1
    You know, none of this would even be an issue if Stephanie Meyer hadn't written about something she had no real knowledge of.


    I know, I know "It's Fiction... blahblahblah". Just because it's fiction, it doesn't give you the right to dictate how other people are represented. I'm Native American & I'm not going to write a book about Asians being shapeshifters that fight off zombies from Russia. why didn't she make up some fictional tribe. She could have used a different race...



    Don't get me wrong, I like the stories... but she should have known there would be backlash from the Native communities. It's not about money (for you freaks who thing so), it's about how you are portrayed to the rest of the world especially with a huge movie like this. Why get rid of someone who's actually from the Pacific NW and replace him with a Puerto Rican or Hispanic actor?
  • Jo
    So this is coming from a full blooded native american who has read and loves all the books. I would like to see more natives in the movie, but only if they can act. I really didn't like the way the natives were depicted in the first movie anyway, I mean I would never were a full length jacket that resembles a blanket on a normal day out, neither would anyone in my family. So with that said, everyone has to remember it's Hollywood, what else do we expect, if Natives want the roles they need to get out there and make it happen like everyone else. If you have a dream, then you do what you can to make it happen....so if you saw the casting for the twilight movies and didn't do anything about, that's your fault. Don't wait for it to be a blockbuster to finally pull out the race flag. I knew there were natives in the book, and if I had any acting ability I would have put myself out there to get a part, so Natives should work a little harder and not play victim. There I'm done
  • UGH!!
    Krys is out of the move 2!!!!??????????
  • Mo
    this makes me mad. trhey cant take solomon and krys out of the movie. i think they should keep them in the movie. they should have some Real Natives. and im not saying that cuz im a Natvie, im not even close. but the movie called for Natives not filipinos. UGH!!
  • danny
    OH BOY! HERE WE GO AGAIN!

    1st it was RobPattz is too ugly to play beautiful; then ok maybe not my bad he'll do

    2nd it Cat hardwicke can't hack it let's go wit Chris W., then we were like no, no, then oh well ok

    3rd it was Taylor is to this to that to this to that to this to that, then he came thru and was signed

    4th it was NO not BrendaSong or Hudgens as Leah, then there is no part 4 Leah in New Moon

    5th it was no this person as Jane no not that person this person no not that person as Jane...

    6th NOW IT's the Solomon/Sam witch trials.

    GIVE US A BREAK PPL. It's just a Werewolf and Vampire movie. I wonder if Dances with Wolves and The Color Purple ever got this much drama and flack, probably not!
  • homemade_fishfry
    yes! totally dude! i remember when everyone was all "OMG!!! i can't believe they cast the kid from shark boy and lava girl in my movie! i will never watch it!!" then after the movie premiered they changed to "OMG!!! we love tlauttz!!! if they don't bring him back i'll never watch new noon!!!"

    my point is it doesn't friggin matter what the outcome is, 2 seconds after they see the new sam in the new movie they'll be screaming "solomon who?"
  • kellyscott
    I don't know... I don't really care if they change solomon... well that's my opinion... the thing that's weird for me was that, why was jacob hanging out with sam in twilight (movie), coz in the second book he didn't seem to like sam that much because of the older people liking him so much right? and jacob didn't like the way people/his friends followed sam too much right? since he wasn't aware of the wolf tribe thingy being true... i dunno i think i'm messed up... ha ha! i just didn't know that solomon was already sam until i read the credits online... so the change wouldn't bother me that much...

    the thing about the ACTORS being native american... i think it is a good thing that they want to cast real native americans... but i don't think they need to turn this into a racial issue... besides... they're ACTORS!!! they could act like native americans... ha ha! c'mon! even robert's not really american why aren't they complaining over him? sheeshh... i don't think they'd hire people for the role of native americans who are popular good lookin koreans or somethin.. so what's their problem? ugh...
  • ml
    okay, i'm part native american (1/3 creek) and this is just ridiculous. it would be cool to have someone that is native american play the roles, but it's not a big deal if they aren't. edward is played by a brit, and edward isn't british. laurent isn't black in the book. i wholeheartedly agree with the casting decisions for both characters. sam's part couldn't have been established by one line: "the cullen's don't come here." sorry. he's not sam to me.
  • Willeke
    I don't quite understand yet why he lost his part in New Moon. He didn't have a big part in Twilight.. He only appeared in the scene on the beach (I believe) and so I can't really judge him for what I've seen. Maybe the directors weren't sure of his capability. In New Moon he's going to get a bigger part, so maybe they doubted he could do that. Ofcourse that's just guessing. If they are going to replace him, they do have to bring someone in that can bring this role well :). I'm mad about the Taylor thing. I'm sure he's going to do great in New Moon. He's been training very hard and he's really enthusiastic about it. And now suddenly they're going to pick on the fact he isn't a NA (not completely). I know in the book they are NA, but.. not every NA can bring a role as great as Taylor :D.
  • Gwen
    I know Willeke, it infuriates me how they are being disrespectul and picking on Taylor and placing blame with defamation allegations that they can't even truly back up. And all the time Taylor had nothing but good thoughts and words when he spoke of the Quileutes he got to spend time with.
  • Willeke
    Yup. Taylor has always been so nice and kind :). I think he's going to do great as Jacob. Sure.. maybe it would have been more 'realistic' if the actors really were NA, but there aren't many NA actors and I'd give a role to someone who can act better, but isn't NA, anytime ;). It's mostly about the skills of an actor, not about whether he's Asian, NA, Filipino etc.. I think Jacob will still do great ;D. And they can always use NA actors for the other characters.
  • Exactly! If there were many NA actors they could use for the Twilight movie, they would have used them, but there aren't many NA actors. And I agree that they can't just pick someone, because he's NA. This person needs to act too. And that requires certain skills.
  • Yup. Taylor has always been so nice and kind :). I think he's going to do great as Jacob. Sure.. maybe it would have been more 'realistic' if the actors really were NA, but there aren't many NA actors and I'd give a role to someone who can act better, but isn't NA, anytime ;). It's mostly about the skills of an actor, not about whether he's Asian, NA, Filipino etc.. I think Jacob will still do great ;D. And they can always use NA actors for the other characters.
  • kberry37
    I think everyone seems to forget that is was very difficult to find Native American "Actors" for the Twilight movie, they cant make people audition, plus keep in mind they are looking for "ACTORS", you cant just get some joe off the street who cant act just because they are native american.
  • katastic
    kudos
  • I'll be so sad not to see Solomon in NM - seriously, if Taylor can beef up to realistically pull off a werewolf Jacob, then Solomon should be included somewhere - even if it's maybe as Quil or Paul or even Seth!

    I think there needs to be a Team Solomon! - www.myspace.com/Team_Solomon
  • katastic
    ditto
  • katastic
    i couldn't agree with you more!
  • katastic
    that's right!!
  • dd
    Yes(AS LONG AS THEY ARE GOOD ACTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) They all need to be able to do what is required of them to potray a role as required to script, and if the rumors are true, agree to cut their hair and mass up.
    hmmm? Solomon/Sam with short hair. He is a handsome man with his long hair but i wonder if it works for him to have short hair, hmmm?
  • ShelbymlRose
    Honestly I find it insulting that they don't choose Native American actors -being 100% Navajo- it's ridiculous. But they shouldn't change actors now just continue with who they have and add some during the 2nd and 3rd movie. NATIVE AMERICANS NOT FILLIPINOS AND ASIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACIAL STRUCTURE. I am 100% positive that they will be able to find enough native americans to fill the role hell I'd do it for free if they gave me the shot. Honestly Native American roles need to be made with native americans just like white with white and so on!!!!!!!!!!! yes, I'm going to stop now so I don't say anything I will regret later.
  • Jen
    I don't mind ST to be replaced. I always imagined Sam as very big with a lot of muscles and Solomon in my opinion - no offense - didn't fit at all except that he's NA.
    You also have to consider that the werewolf thing started with Sam BEFORE Bella came to Forks so he should have been already really bulky in "Twilight".
  • yellow
    especially if krys were to play embry. he towers over solomon.
  • Luke
    WHAT MAY BE MOST IMPORTANT IN ALL THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THEIR OPINION MORE THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING IN THE ARTICLES


    IS WHAT DO THE REAL QUILEUTE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ALL THIS??????????????????????
  • Luke
    ex of that...Gregg Rainwater a Native American actor who is even listed in a website promoting only Native American Actors whose looks could pass as white and yet he is listed in that NA actors site but most likely would not get many roles as a NA but he is NA. He came out in Sreet Fighter and Walker TX Ranger in the 90's


    http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/buckstop/index2.html
  • Sabrina
    And no I wasn't adopted! Both my grandfather's are Mexican born in Mexico but both are light skin and one fo my grandfathers' has green eyes and the other has hazel eyes so there. Mexican heritage and proud of it!
  • UGH!!
    i agree 100% and im sorry but i dont see Dakota Fanning as Jane at all. i still see her as the little girl from Up-Town Girls
  • Sabrina
    Oh please Hannah that just doesn't fly with me. Look I am Hispanic. My Dad is Mexican and my Mom mexican american and I was born with green eyes and very light brown hair and fair skin. I've tried out for Hispanic/Latin roles and never get those roles because they say I look to white. I don't blame them for it cause look who would get a role to play a latin girl if the girls looks all white even if I'm hispanic.
  • UGH!!
    Krys is out of the move 2!!!!??????????
  • Mo
    this makes me mad. trhey cant take solomon and krys out of the movie. i think they should keep them in the movie. they should have some Real Natives. and im not saying that cuz im a Natvie, im not even close. but the movie called for Natives not filipinos. UGH!!
  • danny
    OH BOY! HERE WE GO AGAIN!


    1st it was RobPattz is too ugly to play beautiful; then ok maybe not my bad he'll do



    2nd it Cat hardwicke can't hack it let's go wit Chris W., then we were like no, no, then oh well ok



    3rd it was Taylor is to this to that to this to that to this to that, then he came thru and was signed



    4th it was NO not BrendaSong or Hudgens as Leah, then there is no part 4 Leah in New Moon



    5th it was no this person as Jane no not that person this person no not that person as Jane...



    6th NOW IT's the Solomon/Sam witch trials.



    GIVE US A BREAK PPL. It's just a Werewolf and Vampire movie. I wonder if Dances with Wolves and The Color Purple ever got this much drama and flack, probably not!
  • Gwen
    I know Willeke, it infuriates me how they are being disrespectul and picking on Taylor and placing blame with defamation allegations that they can't even truly back up. And all the time Taylor had nothing but good thoughts and words when he spoke of the Quileutes he got to spend time with.
  • Julez
    Solomon (sp?) is said to have cut his hair and gained 17 lbs from working out (discussed in teh twilight forum off the myspace page)! He's trying hard to keep the role of Sam but there still has been no word. If they were thinking about replacing him they should have told him instead of letting believe he was going to continue. If they are looking to find actors who are more attractive that is just BS. but if they are looking for 'better' actors that is different. Who knows what's going to happen but I am sure we'll find out by the end of the month...
  • John
    LOL!!!! that's good olg06. When i read Ang comment I started giggling that I even started "mystically" hearing Pocahontas' singing
    Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?

    Or ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned

    Can you sing with all the voices of the mountains?

    Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?

    Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?



    AND btw why aren't the people complaining about all this not protesting the gal who is potraying Pocahontas at the Disney resorts!!!!
  • kellyscott
    I don't know... I don't really care if they change solomon... well that's my opinion... the thing that's weird for me was that, why was jacob hanging out with sam in twilight (movie), coz in the second book he didn't seem to like sam that much because of the older people liking him so much right? and jacob didn't like the way people/his friends followed sam too much right? since he wasn't aware of the wolf tribe thingy being true... i dunno i think i'm messed up... ha ha! i just didn't know that solomon was already sam until i read the credits online... so the change wouldn't bother me that much...


    the thing about the ACTORS being native american... i think it is a good thing that they want to cast real native americans... but i don't think they need to turn this into a racial issue... besides... they're ACTORS!!! they could act like native americans... ha ha! c'mon! even robert's not really american why aren't they complaining over him? sheeshh... i don't think they'd hire people for the role of native americans who are popular good lookin koreans or somethin.. so what's their problem? ugh...
  • AMY
    ENOUGH WITH THE OLD SONG AND DANCE THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CASTED OLDER. UHG! WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, HE'S BEEN SIGNED ALREADY!!!!!
    AND!!!!ACTORS GET CASTED FOR ROLES TO DEPICT PERHAPS A CHARACTER WITH ANOTHER NATIONALITY ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!

    GRANTED THEY SHOULD GREATLY CONSIDER THE NATIVE AMERICAN ACTORS AVAILABLE(AS LONG AS THEY ARE GOOD ACTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) FOR THE NEXT FILM IF THE ROLE HAS NOT BEEN CAST YET.

    BUT WHOEVER GOT A ROLE IN TWILIGHT SHOULD JUST KEEP IT FOR NEW MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • I don't quite understand yet why he lost his part in New Moon. He didn't have a big part in Twilight.. He only appeared in the scene on the beach (I believe) and so I can't really judge him for what I've seen. Maybe the directors weren't sure of his capability. In New Moon he's going to get a bigger part, so maybe they doubted he could do that. Ofcourse that's just guessing. If they are going to replace him, they do have to bring someone in that can bring this role well :). I'm mad about the Taylor thing. I'm sure he's going to do great in New Moon. He's been training very hard and he's really enthusiastic about it. And now suddenly they're going to pick on the fact he isn't a NA (not completely). I know in the book they are NA, but.. not every NA can bring a role as great as Taylor :D.
  • KGB
    It is the cloak Stephenie is describing as "darker, almost black", not Jane. Hence the typographical use of the dashes to off-set the description of the preceeding noun. Keep in mind...spoiler here...in Breaking Dawn the Volturi family were described in an order based on the color of their cloaks...beginnning with gray and ending with the darkest of cloaks being closest ranked to Aro, Marcus and Caius's "blackest" cloaks. And Jane's cloak is "almost black".
  • I'll be so sad not to see Solomon in NM - seriously, if Taylor can beef up to realistically pull off a werewolf Jacob, then Solomon should be included somewhere - even if it's maybe as Quil or Paul or even Seth!


    I think there needs to be a Team Solomon! - www.myspace.com/Team_Solomon
  • janetmcp
    Again, people, open your books to page 456 and I quote, "The newcomer was as tiny as Alice, with lank, pale brown hair trimmed short.  The body under the cloak - which was darker, almost black-was slim,and androgynous."
  • Jen
    I don't mind ST to be replaced. I always imagined Sam as very big with a lot of muscles and Solomon in my opinion - no offense - didn't fit at all except that he's NA.
    You also have to consider that the werewolf thing started with Sam BEFORE Bella came to Forks so he should have been already really bulky in "Twilight".
  • I'll be so sad not to see Solomon in NM - seriously, if Taylor can beef up to realistically pull off a werewolf Jacob, then Solomon should be included somewhere - even if it's maybe as Quil or Paul or even Seth!


    I think there needs to be a Team Solomon! Please share: www.myspace.com/Team_Solomon
  • twifan
    seriously? thats not how Jane was described at all. she was 'pale & angel faced'
  • Julez
    Solomon (sp?) is said to have cut his hair and gained 17 lbs from working out (discussed in teh twilight forum off the myspace page)! He's trying hard to keep the role of Sam but there still has been no word. If they were thinking about replacing him they should have told him instead of letting believe he was going to continue. If they are looking to find actors who are more attractive that is just BS. but if they are looking for 'better' actors that is different. Who knows what's going to happen but I am sure we'll find out by the end of the month...
  • AYAYAY
    AHHHH! HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH ALL THE DRAMA!
  • sho
    ya'll are a bunch of ignorant white-privilege youngsters
  • Patty V
    One thing after another Arrgghh!!! Why do they have to mess with the cast????? Leave them alone!! I cannot see anyone else playing Sam but Solomon... Solomon IS SAM!!! These people are causing me more white hair!!!
  • hannah
    i compleatly agee with you... i think the native american roles SHOULD be casted with NA people... And by the way Taylor lautner is not NA it's like saying that jessica alba is na... please people.. he did a good job but i still think it should have been casted older for new moon...
  • s2edward
    i am upset that solomon lost the part and i think he should be recasted, i think he would make an excellent sam.
    come on as long as the actor is talented enough to play the part why should it matter ... like come on they're actors its what they do play somebody their not, robert pattinson's real name isn't edward cullen and he isn't a vampire but he played the part well that we actually beleived during the movie that he was.
    i don't care if they're actually native-american or not in the end the best actor for the part gets it and that's how it should be ... taylor did a terrific job and he's not a Quileute
    so Solomon should get the part and it doesn't matter if the rest of the wolf pack isn't indian .. if the native-american people really want the part tell them to pick up their game and show why they would do a better job
  • AYAYAY
    AHHHH! HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH ALL THE DRAMA!
  • marty
    oh please, give it up already we've heard all tht BS before and ha! he got the part no matter how much your kind bitched about it!
    Keep to the subject matter at hand
  • DragonKing
    I wonder why Solomon lost the part, but am not too broken up about it. What irks me is the insinuation that just because Taylor isn't a "real" Native American, then he is not good enough to play the role. If people audition for the role, are better than the other hopefuls, and can pass for Native Americans then why shouldn't they get it? Yes, there are very few opportunities for Native American actors to play Native Americans, and the casting agents should look to fill the roles first and foremost with Native American actors, but if a better actor auditions then there's nothing to be done. I'm against playing up a small or non-existent heritage to get a part but if the Fillipino who passes for Native is a better actor than the Natives then why not hire the Fillipino?
  • lalala
    He lost the role because #1 he does not look native enough #2 he won't cut his long hair and (the most important) #3 He CAN'T act
  • katastic
    kudos
  • DragonKing
    Thanks. I just don't see the point in denying someone a part because they aren't a member of a certain ethnic group or giviing someone the part over someone else because they are.
  • M.A.
    Yeah and the proof is in the amount of money Twilight made without big shot hollywood stars. they don't need them
  • M.A.
    Oh! good to know the possible facts you stated Scotti about Solomon's beliefs are getting in the way of what is needed to film this movie, maybe someone should mention that to the people who are making a fuss about all this, and avoid all the drama!
  • M.A.
    That's true, It is just a movie. In the case you make above. why weren't Hispanics hired to play the parts for Apocalypto. Native Americans got the part there
  • twiguy
    They are just movies people, it's Hollywood. In Apocalypto they hired American Indians to play what were they, I forget Aztecs or Mayans.
  • twiguy
    That's right!!!!!!! Where were they Before Twilight became a CASH COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Rosalyn
    true to a point I back you up. I am saddened at the point you make because I think the Native Americans were and ARE a truly most beautiful people in every sense to have and be treated as they are.


    BUT I am Mexican American, and at one point some of my people were an Indian Nationality too before all the southern western states were taken over by America from Mexico.



    I see how Mexican Americans are potrayed through Hollywood as just "the help" mostly.

    BUT I don't give a damn! It's not real I know it, just tv, and I just get a good laugh all the way to the bank to get the money to pay for my Merry Maids to clean my house while I go help my family run our furniture store chain we got going here.



    No one can represent you better than you. And I think I and my family do a damn good job at that without having to rely on any group to represent my nationality or who and what makes me and us!



    It's just a movie, just keep all the original cast. They all did a wonderful job, and just make sure Native Americans are hired for the roles that haven't been cast and period
  • sho
    ya'll are a bunch of ignorant white-privilege youngsters
  • a native
    nationality and ethnic background are entirely different things, especially when considering unrepresented and marginalized racial groups like all indigenous people. not just in film, but throughout the world, native people are unaccounted for and seen and seen as something ancient and invisible. i think it's of tremendous importance to bring a native perspective into art, film and hollywood.
  • NATE
    YOU WOULD THINK THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT REAL SERIOUS ISSUES OUT THERE TO FIGHT FOR AND MAKE A STAND FOR than what's happening with the Twilight series
  • Nicky
    YES to all of the above !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    As long as they look the part why complain because it is just fictional, it is sci-fi.



    I once visited Santa Fe New Mexico and went to a Native American Market and they kept asking me from what NA Nation I belonged to. And I have no NA blood in me, but they were totally sweet and kept giving me discounts on their merchandise, hehe.

    So if someone looks the part and can act the part then more power to them.



    So more power to you Taylor 4 Jacob, Solomon 4 Sam, Krys 4 Embry
  • lu
    Yes, let's not turn this fun Fictional movie into a race issue. Totally sad, just when we thought we were making great headway with this past election on that matter.


    Your right Emma THEN before you know we could also have people complaining why Laurent an African American was killed,pulled apart, and burned.



    It is just ridiculous! It is a fictional sci-fi movie that is just trying to be filmed as close As Possible to what Stephenie Meyer's wrote with what or who is available, and more importantly can give the best performance to depict each character.



    And Taylor, Solomon, and Krys were great and deserve to keep their roles.



    At least she wrote about the Quileutes who now the world knows about because I for one had never heard of that beautiful American Indian Nation.
  • Sasha01
    WTH? Solomon Trimble researched and embodied the character of Sam Uley. In the interview I saw him in, he was so passionate about the character. I hope they keep Solomon Trimble as Sam....or bring him back if they let him go.
  • Emma
    That's right totally agree with your comments!!


    Then before you know it you will have people from Chicago complaining why British Robert pattinson was cast to represent a American Chicago native and demand they recast with a Chicao native



    Then you will have British natives complaining why the role of Carlisle was played by an American and not by a British Native.



    Then, are or will all the Volturi be played by actual Italians.



    Then Alice be changed to an actual short person



    Then Rosalie be changed to an actual most beautiful woman in the world.



    But I actually think Solomon should keep his role of Sam. He fits his desciption of looking like the very serious adult male that Sam is. He does not have to be a Hollywood heartthrob. Sam was never described as Dazzling, beautiful or sort of beautiful as Edward and Jacob were.
  • Karen
    P-L-E-A-S-E people from the articles.. I would totally back you up if New Moon wasa movie depicting real Quileutes and their tribal lifes.


    But the reality is that IT IS a sci-fi movie about werewolves and vampires NOT a reality show, or documentry, or a movie based on true events!



    Why disrespect Taylor Lautner and try to put him in a bad light, how can you recieve respect when you disrespect. What fault is it of Taylor. Blame the original cast directors of Twilight if anything.



    But I do believe whoever was already cast in the first movie should just be able to keep the character roles they were already given in Twilight wether they are NativeAmericans, PINK, purple, or polka dotted.



    Then just make sure the other NA roles who were not cast in Twilight be given to Native Americans for New Moon.
  • Ang
    Taylor cant act and to boot he is way too short and also even with new muscle still not bulky enough. Makeup and effects can only go so far without being too fake, besides he has too inocent an attitude, it didnt fit. If people need to be able to act what is his excuse? And The director for twilight did not pick up half the emotion portrayed in the book, need to know how to direct what is her excuse? Whatever some people say others can act just because they look good and that makes up for it i guess oh well i guess to those ignorance is bliss!!!!
  • marty
    oh please, give it up already we've heard all tht BS before and ha! he got the part no matter how much your kind bitched about it!
    Keep to the subject matter at hand
  • Joan
    Bottom line: You have to know how to act. I thought "Sam" was lousy in Twilight...even though he had what?...one line? You have to be a legitimate actor in order to land such a huge role in New Moon.
    Hollywood is all about beautiful people. Good luck changing that. It is what it is. Polynesian, Asian, Filipino, what have you...as long as they "look" the part to some degree that is fine...they need to ACT though. That is the key.
  • Patty V
    One thing after another Arrgghh!!! Why do they have to mess with the cast????? Leave them alone!! I cannot see anyone else playing Sam but Solomon... Solomon IS SAM!!! These people are causing me more white hair!!!
  • homemade_fishfry
    you can't possibly base his "perfection" on the fact that he learned a few phrases (in a language they don't physically use in the book at all) and spent five minutes writing a poem (when stephanie specifically told him sam was NOT a poet). if he was so dedicated he would have been in the gym every day since twilight wrapped building up the pysique needed to play that part.
  • s2edward
    i am upset that solomon lost the part and i think he should be recasted, i think he would make an excellent sam.
    come on as long as the actor is talented enough to play the part why should it matter ... like come on they're actors its what they do play somebody their not, robert pattinson's real name isn't edward cullen and he isn't a vampire but he played the part well that we actually beleived during the movie that he was.

    i don't care if they're actually native-american or not in the end the best actor for the part gets it and that's how it should be ... taylor did a terrific job and he's not a Quileute

    so Solomon should get the part and it doesn't matter if the rest of the wolf pack isn't indian .. if the native-american people really want the part tell them to pick up their game and show why they would do a better job
  • twilightmom
    This was my point about Dakota Fanning. No need to fill this film with Hollywood, there are many talanted people out there who could do this film and it would be more "real" than filling it with the popular person of the moment from LA.
  • M.A.
    Yeah and the proof is in the amount of money Twilight made without big shot hollywood stars. they don't need them
  • olg06
    "true native american indians have a certain something mystical about them. A calm attitude" LOL stoping smoking your grass wtf. "Native-american indians" are like real people they're not all Holy & Saint they can be strippers too if they want to and Solomon Trimble does not look pure let me see his blood test forms. Give me the proof!!!
  • x3 twilight luver!!!! x3
    that is ridiculous! they cant take him out he was already in twilight! i hate when producers do this! change the actor.. it messes up the whole movie! and i think its really ridiculous how they are trying to get vanessa hudgens to play leah..seriously?!? she would be HORRIBLE as leah! she dont belong in New Moon!!! and im hearing ppl want lucas gabriel to play alec! i really hope not! >=O New Moon dont need disney stars!!! new moon needs native americans to play the wolves not filipino and asian celebrities..if they have other ppl [[not native americans]]play the native american parts its gonna RUIN the movie!!!


    and i think that dakota fanning will do a pretty good job at jane..
  • UGH!!
    i agree 100% and im sorry but i dont see Dakota Fanning as Jane at all. i still see her as the little girl from Up-Town Girls
  • Ang
    I totlally agree, i mean out of thousands and thousands of native americans they cant find a few to fit thenbill please. And i also agree with the natural skin color and the height, Dakota would be a good jane she fits what they describe in the book.
  • DragonKing
    I wonder why Solomon lost the part, but am not too broken up about it. What irks me is the insinuation that just because Taylor isn't a "real" Native American, then he is not good enough to play the role. If people audition for the role, are better than the other hopefuls, and can pass for Native Americans then why shouldn't they get it? Yes, there are very few opportunities for Native American actors to play Native Americans, and the casting agents should look to fill the roles first and foremost with Native American actors, but if a better actor auditions then there's nothing to be done. I'm against playing up a small or non-existent heritage to get a part but if the Fillipino who passes for Native is a better actor than the Natives then why not hire the Fillipino?
  • Scotti
    Solomon I'm betting is being recasted because of his thing about the hair. he wouldn't cut his hair for Sam because he said he only cuts it when someone dies and it would be like someone dying too soon that he wasnt okay with letting go.

    And Crys the goverment doesnt at 1/16th. I'm at least 1/16th Cherokee (and possiblely more we cant find out my grandfather's family history but there has been rumors for years in the family he is) and honestly yes it would be nice to be able to get grants for school for that because i really need it for school but I wish i was able to register with my tribe just so I could find out more about my family and culture.
  • M.A.
    Oh! good to know the possible facts you stated Scotti about Solomon's beliefs are getting in the way of what is needed to film this movie, maybe someone should mention that to the people who are making a fuss about all this, and avoid all the drama!
  • Ang
    It is hard to be sure, you need the paperwork to back it, and alot of it was destroyed unless you are able to track birth records then census. Even if they were slaves to landowners, they wold be listed in census
  • Ang
    I hate how they cast not just philipino, but mainly hispanics to play native american indian roles in movies. True Native American Indians have a certain something mystical about them. A calm attitude, do these hollywood people think we are so ignorant as not to notice honestly.!!! It sucks there are many beautiful native american indians to play these roles more AUTHENTICALLY. Taylor get over yourself so just because way back, I have choctaw and further back have canadian indian, possibly other, havent gone that far because assholes back then destroyed records do i get a shot?? Yah thats what i tjought all about having your looks carry you to fame. Anyhoo. If we supress minorities like indians, we need to supress ALL other minorities hispanics and philipino right??? Whatever---cast true native americans!! I found a site on the web for research into cherokee, another line of possibility for me they call many inquiries WANNABEES(so true) taylor let me see the proof!!!!
  • twiguy
    They are just movies people, it's Hollywood. In Apocalypto they hired American Indians to play what were they, I forget Aztecs or Mayans.
  • anen87
    True. but Mayan and Aztec are tribes like cherokee, Lakota ect. different tribes but They are the SAME enthnicity & race: Native-American indians they are all Indigenous indians of America (the continent) and NO One was complaining because it's not like they were casting people of a different race.

    INDNS from Canada (they call them aborinies/first nation people) always play U.S. Native-American roleslike in the movie Skins but no one complains cause they are all the same race just from a different area or tribe.
  • M.A.
    That's true, It is just a movie. In the case you make above. why weren't Hispanics hired to play the parts for Apocalypto. Native Americans got the part there
  • sokerhead
    Only 3 of the main roles were given to U.S. indians All the others were all indians from Mexico can you tell the difference? no cause they're the same race. The word Hispanic is an improper name given to these people of indigenous origin it's like calling the U.S. indians Angloten because they speak english & have english names. watch this vdo
    Mexica(pronounced Me-shee-ka) not Latino not Hispanic vdo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7eDBcjxug
    U.S. indians and indians in Mexico are the same Race niether people from both sides were complaining about the Apocalypto roles
  • olg06
    "true native american indians have a certain something mystical about them. A calm attitude" LOL stoping smoking your grass wtf. "Native-american indians" are like real people they're not all Holy & Saint they can be strippers too if they want to and Solomon Trimble does not look pure let me see his blood test forms. Give me the proof!!!
  • John
    LOL!!!! that's good olg06. When i read Ang comment I started giggling that I even started "mystically" hearing Pocahontas' singing
    Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?
    Or ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned
    Can you sing with all the voices of the mountains?
    Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?
    Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?

    AND btw why aren't the people complaining about all this not protesting the gal who is potraying Pocahontas at the Disney resorts!!!!
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    Most Native Americans don't give a crap about Pocahontas. She is viewed as a traitor by most. Hello she saved the guy who later wiped her tribe off the face of the planet. Her tribe is pretty much extinct. So maybe you shouldn't talk about things that you obviously don't know anything about.
  • olg06
    LOL I know hugh they're shown like all shy with their head bowed down and all covered up.
    I have a beautiful friend she's not shy to show some flesh not afraid to be sexy and she's proud to be Native INDN
    that "mystical" thing is a stereotype many of native friends hate that view of them. gosh they're real people just like you and me
  • mronay
    I like you cuz you said INDN, where i come from it's NDN, but i like you!!! lol!
  • Simii
    i totally agree with you..i mean he looks great for the part but maybe (and i dont know from his one line in Twilight) he cant pull off a larger part...but i also think they should of worried about that when they cast him in the first movie.
  • Simii
    i think you read the wrong book. Jane is not as you described her at all...in fact the opposit
  • Sasha01
    WTH? Solomon Trimble researched and embodied the character of Sam Uley. In the interview I saw him in, he was so passionate about the character. I hope they keep Solomon Trimble as Sam....or bring him back if they let him go.
  • Ang
    I totlally agree, i mean out of thousands and thousands of native americans they cant find a few to fit thenbill please. And i also agree with the natural skin color and the height, Dakota would be a good jane she fits what they describe in the book.
  • Ang
    Taylor cant act and to boot he is way too short and also even with new muscle still not bulky enough. Makeup and effects can only go so far without being too fake, besides he has too inocent an attitude, it didnt fit. If people need to be able to act what is his excuse? And The director for twilight did not pick up half the emotion portrayed in the book, need to know how to direct what is her excuse? Whatever some people say others can act just because they look good and that makes up for it i guess oh well i guess to those ignorance is bliss!!!!
  • Ang
    It is hard to be sure, you need the paperwork to back it, and alot of it was destroyed unless you are able to track birth records then census. Even if they were slaves to landowners, they wold be listed in census
  • Joan
    Bottom line: You have to know how to act. I thought "Sam" was lousy in Twilight...even though he had what?...one line? You have to be a legitimate actor in order to land such a huge role in New Moon.
    Hollywood is all about beautiful people. Good luck changing that. It is what it is. Polynesian, Asian, Filipino, what have you...as long as they "look" the part to some degree that is fine...they need to ACT though. That is the key.
  • Twilightmom
    This was my point about Dakota Fanning. No need to fill this film with Hollywood, there are many talanted people out there who could do this film and it would be more "real" than filling it with the popular person of the moment from LA.
  • x3 twilight luver!!!! x3
    that is ridiculous! they cant take him out he was already in twilight! i hate when producers do this! change the actor.. it messes up the whole movie! and i think its really ridiculous how they are trying to get vanessa hudgens to play leah..seriously?!? she would be HORRIBLE as leah! she dont belong in New Moon!!! and im hearing ppl want lucas gabriel to play alec! i really hope not! >=O New Moon dont need disney stars!!! new moon needs native americans to play the wolves not filipino and asian celebrities..if they have other ppl [[not native americans]]play the native american parts its gonna RUIN the movie!!!




    and i think that dakota fanning will do a pretty good job at jane..
  • Jewels
    I hope that's just a freaking rumor! If they take out Solomon, that will be bad for all reasons!!!!!
  • homemade_fishfry
    i agree that the native american parts should be played by native american peoples. i also agree with the statement that it is disrespectful to their history and culture to put a non-native in these parts. definitely, with a little extra effort on their part they could find someone to fit these roles without have to custom fit someone into them. the casting companies should think about making a trip to the canadian praries. there are MANY aboriginal theatre companies throughout with many talented people both young and old that have the chops to be considered, yet live too far away to be seen.

    in taylors case he had quite a few lines and ample screentime it would have been strange seeing another person in that role. though i have to say that i think there might just be someone who better fits the role of sam. no offence to solomon but i found him too short for the role. also, he was already a werewolf he should have been more muscled. i know we see him in that role now, but he had 2 lines and not much screentime he could easily be re-cast. he should have taken a hint from taylor and started muscling up, how wrong would it have looked to have taylor and probably all the new people they cast as the wolf pack looking all muscled and huge and have solomon (who is supposed to be playing someone older and more experienced) standing among them looking short and lacking. i think it was a good move and we may get a better movie because of it.
  • anen87
    Yeah I Agree 100% everything you said regarding Solomon--no offense to him-- he just doesn't look like a leader
  • justme
    I hope they don't recast him.I hope they cast real Native Americans it wouldn't be right if they didn't.
  • Scotti
    Solomon I'm betting is being recasted because of his thing about the hair. he wouldn't cut his hair for Sam because he said he only cuts it when someone dies and it would be like someone dying too soon that he wasnt okay with letting go.


    And Crys the goverment doesnt at 1/16th. I'm at least 1/16th Cherokee (and possiblely more we cant find out my grandfather's family history but there has been rumors for years in the family he is) and honestly yes it would be nice to be able to get grants for school for that because i really need it for school but I wish i was able to register with my tribe just so I could find out more about my family and culture.
  • Ang
    I hate how they cast not just philipino, but mainly hispanics to play native american indian roles in movies. True Native American Indians have a certain something mystical about them. A calm attitude, do these hollywood people think we are so ignorant as not to notice honestly.!!! It sucks there are many beautiful native american indians to play these roles more AUTHENTICALLY. Taylor get over yourself so just because way back, I have choctaw and further back have canadian indian, possibly other, havent gone that far because assholes back then destroyed records do i get a shot?? Yah thats what i tjought all about having your looks carry you to fame. Anyhoo. If we supress minorities like indians, we need to supress ALL other minorities hispanics and philipino right??? Whatever---cast true native americans!! I found a site on the web for research into cherokee, another line of possibility for me they call many inquiries WANNABEES(so true) taylor let me see the proof!!!!
  • Cc
    Isn't Solomon Native American? Why would they get rid of him? And even if he isn't, he looks the part and there's no point to recast him when we already see him as Sam. They should work on getting real Native Americans for the rest of the wolf pack instead of only worrying about one.
  • Jazzled
    NOOO!They can't do that.Why would they want to get rid of Solomon??He's perfect!WTF!???
  • anen87
    Taylor IS part native-american descent what people are saying is you have to be Registered in some Tribe headquarters & raised in the cultural reservation to be considered a "Real Native-American" for ex. one could be 1/8 N-A blood but if you're registered tribe member raised in the culture then you're pretty much a Native-American Indian pssh


    and What???? Jane is NOT dark skin re-read the book again she is pale with light brown hair
  • Anonymous
    ummm
    PLEASE MAKE A PETITION!!!!!!

    to keep solomon trimble and the other cast actors; who cares if they aren't full native american!?! they already are the embodiment of those characters

    PETITION PLEASEEE newmoonmovie.org
  • JulieannaClark
    THIS IS A FREAKING OUTRAGE!!!!!!! YOU CAN"T TAKE AWAY SOLOMON!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING!!!!!
  • anen87
    Yeah I Agree 100% everything you said regarding Solomon--no offense to him-- he just doesn't look like a leader
  • Madison
    Even though I completely support the notion that they should stick to the Native American ethnicity as much as possible, the Native American race is probably one of the most quiet and un-heard of ethinicities when it comes to public performance. Not only do I rarely see Native Americans in movies, I don't even see them much in real life. Maybe that's because I live in the South and I'm not sure where they mostly dwell, but for the most part, most "native american" poeple I know have had the true Native American appearance diluted by inter-racial marriage. That's not a bad thing at all, but most of the Native American's out there are probably only 1/3rd Native American at the highest concentration.

    I mean, I'm all for it if they can find true Native Americans. I think Native Americans are really hot but I just rarely see a genuine Native American.
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    Try looking in Oklahoma for one...it's where most of the tribes were relocated after the Dawes Act/Trail of Tears (AKA Indian Territory). Kansas, more specifically Haskell Indian University in Lawrence, has a huge concentration of native scholars. Reservations still exist all over the US although most are small, with the exception of the Dakotas (where tribes of Sioux exist). We are not exactly quiet, but most people don't care. The biggest powwow in the US is the gathering of nations held in New Mexico usually in April. The fact is that we are the minority of race and most people do not care to see us. I myself am 9/16 choctaw, but I know plenty of full bloods (my grandfather for sure). When I was younger, my parents took me to the Pine Ridge Reservation to remind me of the past. They took the care to pass along my history and gave me a taste of Native American history. It is who I am and it keeps my feet planted on the right path.
  • Avril C
    The only thing that really matters to me is that the actors fit the characters description in the book (or are close to it) and of course that they are capable of doing a good interpretation of the role for the sake of the movie. I don’t care where they come from, what is their ethnicity, their first language, religion or anything….as long as they do a good job, the rest does not matter! I understand that there are many new Native American characters in New Moon and it will be nice if they can find good Native American actors to play them…but as long as the selected one look Native American and do a good job…it is OK with me.
  • katastic
    ditto
  • kArRRRr
    Solomon as sam is perfect. why recast for his part?
    I think he would be a perfect sam, he's so dedicated, he even too the time to learn the Quiluete language, he even wrote a poem for emily, and everything.

    i dont see why the big change for, they are planning to film this movie in the coming months, why choose someone else, solomon is perfectly capable to play sam, and yeah, his part in twilight was small, but who cares, i think most people he grown attach to these people already so why change them.
  • homemade_fishfry
    you can't possibly base his "perfection" on the fact that he learned a few phrases (in a language they don't physically use in the book at all) and spent five minutes writing a poem (when stephanie specifically told him sam was NOT a poet). if he was so dedicated he would have been in the gym every day since twilight wrapped building up the pysique needed to play that part.
  • olg06
    homemade_fishfry you took the words out of my mouth
  • dulse
    That's plain BS.. Solomon Trimble is Sam Uley!!! We all know Solomon as Sam it's like all of sudden they say "Hey Ashley we're goin' to go w/ a different Alice this time that's actually that height and well you're to tall, so your out.. sorry".. They just can't do that.. Sam is an important part in the upcoming parts..
  • sasstwi
    I thought Solomon as Sam was fine! Why'd they gotta go and change him?!
    And as for taylor, they better not bring back that talk of replacing him. It's done and finished. I just want all these controversies to stop and just start shooting already.
    I guess they need the complete cast though, right?
    In my opinion, while it is ideal to have a true native american playing a native american... (don't shoot me!) I think that others could as well. As the article pointed out, other actors who are not native american, have been trying to look the part. Isn't that the showbiz? You don't have to be native american to play a native american.
    However, I do understand the natives point of view. This is a rare chance for them to be in a movie, right? because options for them are limited. I hope this all gets sorted out. and soon.
  • janetmcp
    I totally agree. Taylor did an excellent job in the first movie. I thought he was at least part native american. I was surprised to find out he wasn't. Anyway, I do believe that if they want to keep the book fans hyped up for the next three movies, they better not go all hollywood in hiring famous non-native actors. I enjoyed the movie more because there weren't any fabulously famous actors involved. As a fan of the books, I really do not want to see hollywood types placed in these important roles. I would like to see them cast more of the up and coming actors that I am sure are plentiful out there. And I definitely would like to see actual native americans portraying the quileutes. On another note, I don't want Dakota Fanning to play Jane, for much of the same reasons I mentioned above. In the book, Jane is described as dark-skinned, almost black with pale brown hair trimmed short. Does anyone think Dakota Fanning in any way resembles this character. Please keep it real for us avid fans of Stephenie Meyer's characters.
  • Crys
    I personally am 1/6 Lunbee Indian and for someone to say I can't claim my heritage because from their point of view I am not enough is messed up! But wait someone did say that, the US Government when they took the Native American status away from the Lumbee Tribe. And the US Government feels that you can claim Native American Status as long as you are 1/16 Native American for Scholarships and Grants. Who are we to judge what Heritage you may claim in the Melting Pot of the world! I say go Taylor!!!
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    So are you only concerned about claiming your heritage because it can get you scholarships and grants??? Do you know the history of your tribe?
  • Jewels
    I hope that's just a freaking rumor! If they take out Solomon, that will be bad for all reasons!!!!!
  • homemade_fishfry
    i agree that the native american parts should be played by native american peoples. i also agree with the statement that it is disrespectful to their history and culture to put a non-native in these parts. definitely, with a little extra effort on their part they could find someone to fit these roles without have to custom fit someone into them. the casting companies should think about making a trip to the canadian praries. there are MANY aboriginal theatre companies throughout with many talented people both young and old that have the chops to be considered, yet live too far away to be seen.


    in taylors case he had quite a few lines and ample screentime it would have been strange seeing another person in that role. though i have to say that i think there might just be someone who better fits the role of sam. no offence to solomon but i found him too short for the role. also, he was already a werewolf he should have been more muscled. i know we see him in that role now, but he had 2 lines and not much screentime he could easily be re-cast. he should have taken a hint from taylor and started muscling up, how wrong would it have looked to have taylor and probably all the new people they cast as the wolf pack looking all muscled and huge and have solomon (who is supposed to be playing someone older and more experienced) standing among them looking short and lacking. i think it was a good move and we may get a better movie because of it.
  • justme
    I hope they don't recast him.I hope they cast real Native Americans it wouldn't be right if they didn't.
  • I LOVE SOLOMON AS SAM.. KEEP HIM!
  • MireilleMasen
    It's wrong that they weren't using a Native American for Sam's role but there aren't a lot of Native American actors/actresses. I'd love it if they had real Native Americans playing characters in the movie because then they would have someone representing them in a big movie. I'd be pretty upset if someone lied about their heritage in order to play a role and they're not my heritage but letting Sam go is pretty harsh too. If they knew that he wasn't really Native American why lie about it? I don't think they should find another person to play Sam but for the rest of the Quiluete tribe members who haven't been cast they should find some real Native Americans or do like they did with Taylor and make sure they have some Native American in thier blood.
  • moriah
    i thought solomon is a Native American. what is he then???? and why would it matter now taylor isnt really native american and hes still in. not that im mad bout that but if they change the characters now ima get really P.Oed i hate when that happens it confuses me. its wo wrong
  • MireilleMasen
    Sorry my friend told me he wasn't.
  • lalala
    well he is not dark enough musceled & tall enough to be Sam and most importantly he Can't act he is not an actor!!!!
  • EmmaMarieUK
    He was in the first film so keep it. Who ever was in the first they should use for the rest.
    Other native american parts should be given to native americans.
  • that is wrong that they just tell him he isnt in the movie and its wrong that they might not be using real native americans in which they should be...... this is all very weird i hope they use real native americans its wrong if they dont...........i still love taylor but i mean for the other parts in the movie that are native americans should be native americans not people with alot of makeup on..................i just want the movie to be good i still think its wrong but if they do find someone better for the part then im ok..... but...... it still should be a native american
  • mercurio1217
    are all of the actors cast to play members of the Italian Voltouri truly Italian? Are all of the actors playing vampires truly vampires? It is called ACTING, people are hired to play a character. I dont care what their heritage is as long as they produce quality work and are believable in that role and that is all that should matter.
  • katastic
    i couldn't agree with you more!
  • lofi
    I really, really hope this isn't true. Would they recast Will Smith as Edward Cullen? No. Well, this would be just as stupid. Frankly, I had a tough enough time imagining that Taylor Lautner was Quileute. Aside from being a new racist low for humanity, it's disruptive to the story. Just let the characters be who they are. If Hollywood has a tough time finding actors in the Native American community, maybe they could work on being more actively inclusive instead of perpetuating the problem.
  • Eh, I don't care actually. I thought he was playing Quil in the first movie until I checked it up actually-- since like... Why would Jacob want to hang out with Sam? (since they didn't have the bonfire scene and all)
  • Cc
    Isn't Solomon Native American? Why would they get rid of him? And even if he isn't, he looks the part and there's no point to recast him when we already see him as Sam. They should work on getting real Native Americans for the rest of the wolf pack instead of only worrying about one.
  • Drew
    As far as Solomon goes, I am not really upset about it, as long as the replacement does actually resemble a native american. It the first film, he quite literally was in the film for 30 seconds. When Bella is at the beach in the van, explaining she invited Edward. Sam Uley says, "The Cullens don't come here". THATS IT. You can not judge his acting abilities on those 5 words. In New moon he needs to act a lot more, so maybe Solomon just couldnt pull off the abilities to make it work. I would way rather the film be good with a new Sam than keep the same guy who had 5 words to say in the first film who has no acting abilities.
  • Jazzled
    NOOO!They can't do that.Why would they want to get rid of Solomon??He's perfect!WTF!???
  • buffy5551
    This is garbage. While I understand that Native Americans want to be accurately represented, there is no reason to steal another actor's part away from him when he's already earned it. The fact that he isn't Native American is secondary to the fact that he has the ability to play the part (and hence, was cast in the first place). If you want to be in New Moon and you ARE a Native American, AUDITION AND QUIT BITCHING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET A PART IN THE FIRST ONE! That's not Soloman's fault; or Taylor's for that matter.

    There wasn't any sort of uproar until Twilight was a phenomenon and people expect New Moon to make a lot of money... so, basically no one cares if they're being misrepresented as long as they aren't missing out on getting paid. Absurd.
  • katastic
    that's right!!
  • twiguy
    That's right!!!!!!! Where were they Before Twilight became a CASH COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Marti
    Plus Taylor does look Native American. It's not his fault he didn't know until last minute. Everyone learns something about themselves at the last minute. For all I know I could be Bulgarian included in my French, Irish, and English roots.
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    You're sadly mistaken..98% of Native Americans know from birth of their original descent and are incredibly proud of it. The government tracks it through the use of Certificate of Native Blood (CDIB). You have to be able to trace your lineage from an original enrollee of a federally recognized tribe and then you have to provide documentation (marriage liscenses, death certificates, birth certificates) to prove that it is your family. Occassionally you find out later in life your blood descent, but most of the time you have posers who claim to descend from some chief, or "indian princess". Or my personl favorite...their family was too ashamed to receive a roll number. Native Americans are never ashamed of who they are. They are a proud race still trying to recover from demons in their past.
  • anen87
    yeah I agree. I too didn't question about my ethnicity/race until around my teens/ adolescents which is where taylor is right now.
    As a kid you really don't care or know or understand the concept of race cause all you want to do is play & have fun whith other kids
  • Drew
    I agree with Jembean. Why are these people knocking Taylor Lautner. He looks Native American, so what if he is only 1/8 native american, that 1/8 makes him a lot more native than the 7/8 of white descent making him look caucasian.
  • Marti
    They should have kept Solomon. It makes no sense in trying to change it now. They already had credited him as Sam in Twilight and didn't even credit Krys as Embry in the credits even though everyone knew he was Embry.
  • Jembean
    It is ridiculous for people to be upset that Taylor Lautner only has a little bit of native american in him..and even if he didn't have any at all! HELLO!?!? He did a GREAT job in Twilight and hes the best person for the role in New Moon. Who cares HOW MUCH he has in him.
    And btw this is NOT comparable to casting a white person in the Color Purple because first off, Taylor DOES look native american. And second, the movie isn't about Native American oppression or slavery or anything like that. In that case, I might agree because they would need someone who is fully of that race so they can sympathize more with the character.
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    *lol* Taylor doesn't look like a reservation native. Most of them stay true to their tribal affiliations. He could possibly have native blood judging by his bone structure, but I really was annoyed watching the movie. He is an ok actor but he looks like a white boy with too much spray tan and a wig.
  • anen87
    yeah I AGREE I Don't get that "it is like casting Kate Bosworth as Celie in The Color Purple" comment; Hugh it's not like Taylor looks like Chuck Norris (Norris has N-A ancestry but doesn't look it) I mean isn't that's why they were questioning his heritage cause he didn't look white grrrr.

    Anyway about Solomon I can understand why he would be recasted in New Moon he Suppose to be taller than Jacob & being the leader of the pack I always pictured a buff older looking guy which I don't think Solomon fits Sam's discription
  • JulieannaClark
    THIS IS A FREAKING OUTRAGE!!!!!!! YOU CAN"T TAKE AWAY SOLOMON!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING!!!!!
  • Sim1
    Thats foul if it is true. Does anyone know if they will be casting older Native Americans for the movie? I am 27 and Native American but so far I have only seen casting calls for teens. Any info would be great. thx
  • Madison
    Even though I completely support the notion that they should stick to the Native American ethnicity as much as possible, the Native American race is probably one of the most quiet and un-heard of ethinicities when it comes to public performance. Not only do I rarely see Native Americans in movies, I don't even see them much in real life. Maybe that's because I live in the South and I'm not sure where they mostly dwell, but for the most part, most "native american" poeple I know have had the true Native American appearance diluted by inter-racial marriage. That's not a bad thing at all, but most of the Native American's out there are probably only 1/3rd Native American at the highest concentration.


    I mean, I'm all for it if they can find true Native Americans. I think Native Americans are really hot but I just rarely see a genuine Native American.
  • {sombodysbella}
    wait,what?? didnt they say he was native american in the article?? and i think there being rudiculus....just geting rid of him to find someone else more poplaur and cuter?? there doing it to make a bigger profit..hate to brake it to ya,but tons of peaple have read the twilight saga and seen the movie so summit will already get a TON of money with out fireing the guy who plays sam. Summit is just being greedy...
  • Katie
    What. The. Hell.
    Obviously, this movie is already off to a bad start. Solomon Trimble could and would be a fantastic Sam in New Moon. I think that, if this is true, then the casting directors do not understand true talent. Solomon looked the part, and could even act the part, so my question is, what is the purpose of taking him out? All you'll get, probably, is a horde of angry-Twilight-fans for changing the cast when we didn't want it that way, and a suck-ish actor when you can't find someone better than Solomon.

    God, I hate casting directors.
  • Bijou
    No way. They can't take him out! He was already credited in the FIRST movie! Why would they do that? It's completely ridiculous!
  • Avril C
    The only thing that really matters to me is that the actors fit the characters description in the book (or are close to it) and of course that they are capable of doing a good interpretation of the role for the sake of the movie. I don’t care where they come from, what is their ethnicity, their first language, religion or anything….as long as they do a good job, the rest does not matter! I understand that there are many new Native American characters in New Moon and it will be nice if they can find good Native American actors to play them…but as long as the selected one look Native American and do a good job…it is OK with me.
  • kArRRRr
    Solomon as sam is perfect. why recast for his part?
    I think he would be a perfect sam, he's so dedicated, he even too the time to learn the Quiluete language, he even wrote a poem for emily, and everything.



    i dont see why the big change for, they are planning to film this movie in the coming months, why choose someone else, solomon is perfectly capable to play sam, and yeah, his part in twilight was small, but who cares, i think most people he grown attach to these people already so why change them.
  • dulse
    That's plain BS.. Solomon Trimble is Sam Uley!!! We all know Solomon as Sam it's like all of sudden they say "Hey Ashley we're goin' to go w/ a different Alice this time that's actually that height and well you're to tall, so your out.. sorry".. They just can't do that.. Sam is an important part in the upcoming parts..
  • sasstwi
    I thought Solomon as Sam was fine! Why'd they gotta go and change him?!
    And as for taylor, they better not bring back that talk of replacing him. It's done and finished. I just want all these controversies to stop and just start shooting already.

    I guess they need the complete cast though, right?

    In my opinion, while it is ideal to have a true native american playing a native american... (don't shoot me!) I think that others could as well. As the article pointed out, other actors who are not native american, have been trying to look the part. Isn't that the showbiz? You don't have to be native american to play a native american.

    However, I do understand the natives point of view. This is a rare chance for them to be in a movie, right? because options for them are limited. I hope this all gets sorted out. and soon.
  • love_twilight
    Taylor was in the first move as Jacob...and should definitely stay. He is awesome, worked hard to get his new physique, and is loved the Twilight fans.


    However, with New moon having the Quileute tribe as an integral part of the book/movie, it is extremely important to cast Native Americans in this role. I always thought Twilight gave actors a chance...and moved them up into stardom with its success. To stay true to the story, it is important to cast Native Americans in these roles.
  • Twilight Luver
    What the Heck?
    The CANT change the actors(even if i dont like Sam's charcter in the books)
    it will get all cofusing!
    Its like Switching Taylor Lautner
    even if its TLhas a big role and ST dosent it dosent make scenese! (plus he dose have a big role my mistake)
    Goosh
    he was good
    u cant take him ut
    there changing al the casting roles it makes some ppl mad
  • Sarah
    NO why would they take him out????
    he's good!
    stop messing round with us about the casting please - it gets our hopes up and then brings us down with posts like this!
    i am annoyed :( we need a petition again - he's worth keeping!
  • Sarah
    NO! he cant be out! not after that poem he wrote in sam's POV to emily!

    It doesnt make sense
  • annie:]
    Why would they take Solomon out? it doesnt make sense :( I hope they do keep him..
  • i agree. HE IS SAM! they cant loose him! -growls-
  • mjadea
    I think that they surely must be able to find a native american who is good enough an actor to fit the role..they must...at least they should.
  • Reyna
    I would like to see Eddie Spears play the role and he is Native American
  • yaz_c
    Eddie Spears would be excellent as Jacob if not then at least Sam. He is Native American, gorgeous and talented. As a Navajo myself I am so tired of casting other races in Native American parts. It is just one step away from the white actors in westerns with brown face paint. I am really disappointed in the casting of the Natives in this movie. I love the twilight series books and am excited about the movies. Plea from a fan: cast Native American parts with Native Americans. Bella isn't played by an African American actress, see what I mean. One last thing Jacob shouldn't be played by a child he needs to be played by someone Bella could fall in love with.
  • Anna
    Yes, I agree with you about Eddie Spears he would have been a good choice.
  • yeah
    A child? have you not seen his recent video of him Omg his body He's a man I find myself googling over him even though I'm 21!!! hahaha
  • Brown Eyed Angel
    You obviolusly have not been around a lot of Native American men *lol*. Taylor looks like a little boy and believe me where I come from...Native Boys don't look like that. Don't get me wrong...he's cute, but so not what I imagined for Jacob.
  • Anna
    It's still tiny It looks wierd ,too.
  • love_twilight
    Taylor was in the first move as Jacob...and should definitely stay. He is awesome, worked hard to get his new physique, and is loved the Twilight fans.

    However, with New moon having the Quileute tribe as an integral part of the book/movie, it is extremely important to cast Native Americans in this role. I always thought Twilight gave actors a chance...and moved them up into stardom with its success. To stay true to the story, it is important to cast Native Americans in these roles.
  • janetmcp
    I totally agree. Taylor did an excellent job in the first movie. I thought he was at least part native american. I was surprised to find out he wasn't.

    Anyway, I do believe that if they want to keep the book fans hyped up for the next three movies, they better not go all hollywood in hiring famous non-native actors. I enjoyed the movie more because there weren't any fabulously famous actors involved. As a fan of the books, I really do not want to see hollywood types placed in these important roles. I would like to see them cast more of the up and coming actors that I am sure are plentiful out there. And I definitely would like to see actual native americans portraying the quileutes.

    On another note, I don't want Dakota Fanning to play Jane, for much of the same reasons I mentioned above. In the book, Jane is described as dark-skinned, almost black with pale brown hair trimmed short. Does anyone think Dakota Fanning in any way resembles this character. Please keep it real for us avid fans of Stephenie Meyer's characters.
  • redsmkg313
    i dont know what book you were readin because jane is pale and blonde dakota fanning would be perfect but i dont like soloman trimble he is weird looking
  • twifan
    seriously? thats not how Jane was described at all. she was 'pale & angel faced'
  • Simii
    i think you read the wrong book. Jane is not as you described her at all...in fact the opposit
  • janetmcp
    Again, people, open your books to page 456 and I quote, "The newcomer was as tiny as Alice, with lank, pale brown hair trimmed short.  The body under the cloak - which was darker, almost black-was slim,and androgynous."
  • olg06
    LOL you dumb it's the Cloak
  • KGB
    It is the cloak Stephenie is describing as "darker, almost black", not Jane. Hence the typographical use of the dashes to off-set the description of the preceeding noun. Keep in mind...spoiler here...in Breaking Dawn the Volturi family were described in an order based on the color of their cloaks...beginnning with gray and ending with the darkest of cloaks being closest ranked to Aro, Marcus and Caius's "blackest" cloaks. And Jane's cloak is "almost black".
  • Karen
    P-L-E-A-S-E people from the articles.. I would totally back you up if New Moon wasa movie depicting real Quileutes and their tribal lifes.

    But the reality is that IT IS a sci-fi movie about werewolves and vampires NOT a reality show, or documentry, or a movie based on true events!

    Why disrespect Taylor Lautner and try to put him in a bad light, how can you recieve respect when you disrespect. What fault is it of Taylor. Blame the original cast directors of Twilight if anything.

    But I do believe whoever was already cast in the first movie should just be able to keep the character roles they were already given in Twilight wether they are NativeAmericans, PINK, purple, or polka dotted.

    Then just make sure the other NA roles who were not cast in Twilight be given to Native Americans for New Moon.
  • Anna
    The story does have to be true or not would you like it if they had picked a Native American girl for Bella? I don't think so. What I think is that there are so little roles where Native Americans are in the storyline and when one I would like to see a Native American. There out there trying for auditions, too. Just like in the auditions there are requirements. I've seen them asked for Caucasians, Afician Americans and so on. So if one of the requirements is Native American then it should be Natvie American!
  • Twi-Tiana_7
    Karen:
    THANK YOU SOMEONE TALKING WITH SOME SENSE!
    lol.
  • Emma
    That's right totally agree with your comments!!

    Then before you know it you will have people from Chicago complaining why British Robert pattinson was cast to represent a American Chicago native and demand they recast with a Chicao native

    Then you will have British natives complaining why the role of Carlisle was played by an American and not by a British Native.

    Then, are or will all the Volturi be played by actual Italians.

    Then Alice be changed to an actual short person

    Then Rosalie be changed to an actual most beautiful woman in the world.

    But I actually think Solomon should keep his role of Sam. He fits his desciption of looking like the very serious adult male that Sam is. He does not have to be a Hollywood heartthrob. Sam was never described as Dazzling, beautiful or sort of beautiful as Edward and Jacob were.
  • a native
    nationality and ethnic background are entirely different things, especially when considering unrepresented and marginalized racial groups like all indigenous people. not just in film, but throughout the world, native people are unaccounted for and seen and seen as something ancient and invisible. i think it's of tremendous importance to bring a native perspective into art, film and hollywood.
  • Luke
    WHAT MAY BE MOST IMPORTANT IN ALL THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THEIR OPINION MORE THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING IN THE ARTICLES

    IS WHAT DO THE REAL QUILEUTE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ALL THIS??????????????????????
  • hannah
    i compleatly agee with you... i think the native american roles SHOULD be casted with NA people... And by the way Taylor lautner is not NA it's like saying that jessica alba is na... please people.. he did a good job but i still think it should have been casted older for new moon...
  • olg06
    Taylor never said he was NA actor he just said he has some NA ancestry he is Part again Part (nothing wrong with that) he also claimed german, dutch, & french too O.K. And I'm pretty sure Jessica Alba is also part NA from her mexican side Mexican is merely a nationality there's a lot of indians there too idiots. But again no one is just NA as long as you're Registered in some Tribe & raised in the culture you're consider a "Real Native-American Indian" even if you're only 1/6, 1/8, 1/14
  • Sabrina
    Oh please Hannah that just doesn't fly with me. Look I am Hispanic. My Dad is Mexican and my Mom mexican american and I was born with green eyes and very light brown hair and fair skin. I've tried out for Hispanic/Latin roles and never get those roles because they say I look to white. I don't blame them for it cause look who would get a role to play a latin girl if the girls looks all white even if I'm hispanic.
  • Luke
    ex of that...Gregg Rainwater a Native American actor who is even listed in a website promoting only Native American Actors whose looks could pass as white and yet he is listed in that NA actors site but most likely would not get many roles as a NA but he is NA. He came out in Sreet Fighter and Walker TX Ranger in the 90's

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/buckstop/index2.html
  • olg06
    Luke thanks for that example also Tyler Christopher is "Real NA" (but does not look pure Native) I know many so called "Native Americans" do not look pure Native at all; they're merely "Real Natives" because they were raised in the culture/Registered tribe members. Taylor is not registered or raised in the culture. He does have some NA ancestry (% really does not matter). Does he look native? Yes. Can he act? Yes. Well You got the part. FYI Casting Directors don't care for the actor's upbringing/culture when casting roles.
    P.S. I agree with Solomon's re-cast he can't act. Sam has a big role in NM and I want this movie to be great.
  • Sabrina
    And no I wasn't adopted! Both my grandfather's are Mexican born in Mexico but both are light skin and one fo my grandfathers' has green eyes and the other has hazel eyes so there. Mexican heritage and proud of it!
  • AMY
    ENOUGH WITH THE OLD SONG AND DANCE THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CASTED OLDER. UHG! WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, HE'S BEEN SIGNED ALREADY!!!!!
    AND!!!!ACTORS GET CASTED FOR ROLES TO DEPICT PERHAPS A CHARACTER WITH ANOTHER NATIONALITY ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!
    GRANTED THEY SHOULD GREATLY CONSIDER THE NATIVE AMERICAN ACTORS AVAILABLE(AS LONG AS THEY ARE GOOD ACTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) FOR THE NEXT FILM IF THE ROLE HAS NOT BEEN CAST YET.
    BUT WHOEVER GOT A ROLE IN TWILIGHT SHOULD JUST KEEP IT FOR NEW MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • dd
    Yes(AS LONG AS THEY ARE GOOD ACTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) They all need to be able to do what is required of them to potray a role as required to script, and if the rumors are true, agree to cut their hair and mass up.
    hmmm? Solomon/Sam with short hair. He is a handsome man with his long hair but i wonder if it works for him to have short hair, hmmm?
  • Rosalyn
    true to a point I back you up. I am saddened at the point you make because I think the Native Americans were and ARE a truly most beautiful people in every sense to have and be treated as they are.

    BUT I am Mexican American, and at one point some of my people were an Indian Nationality too before all the southern western states were taken over by America from Mexico.

    I see how Mexican Americans are potrayed through Hollywood as just "the help" mostly.
    BUT I don't give a damn! It's not real I know it, just tv, and I just get a good laugh all the way to the bank to get the money to pay for my Merry Maids to clean my house while I go help my family run our furniture store chain we got going here.

    No one can represent you better than you. And I think I and my family do a damn good job at that without having to rely on any group to represent my nationality or who and what makes me and us!

    It's just a movie, just keep all the original cast. They all did a wonderful job, and just make sure Native Americans are hired for the roles that haven't been cast and period
  • Anna
    Just like our place was taken over by the Spanish first? I'm so happy that my great-great-great-great-great-grandmother ecsaped her role as a maid to the Spanish. Sorry I just don't know where your going with that? But I is true I agree with you on that point no one can represent yu better than you. The fact is Spanish in the acting field it was a bit more accessible than for Native Americans.
  • lu
    Yes, let's not turn this fun Fictional movie into a race issue. Totally sad, just when we thought we were making great headway with this past election on that matter.

    Your right Emma THEN before you know we could also have people complaining why Laurent an African American was killed,pulled apart, and burned.

    It is just ridiculous! It is a fictional sci-fi movie that is just trying to be filmed as close As Possible to what Stephenie Meyer's wrote with what or who is available, and more importantly can give the best performance to depict each character.

    And Taylor, Solomon, and Krys were great and deserve to keep their roles.

    At least she wrote about the Quileutes who now the world knows about because I for one had never heard of that beautiful American Indian Nation.
  • Nicky
    YES to all of the above !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As long as they look the part why complain because it is just fictional, it is sci-fi.

    I once visited Santa Fe New Mexico and went to a Native American Market and they kept asking me from what NA Nation I belonged to. And I have no NA blood in me, but they were totally sweet and kept giving me discounts on their merchandise, hehe.
    So if someone looks the part and can act the part then more power to them.

    So more power to you Taylor 4 Jacob, Solomon 4 Sam, Krys 4 Embry
  • Anna
    Okay I don't see why you to lied, but what you did was the same thing trying to be something your not to profit from it!? People work hard on their arts and crafts and you just cheated them.
  • NATE
    YOU WOULD THINK THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT REAL SERIOUS ISSUES OUT THERE TO FIGHT FOR AND MAKE A STAND FOR than what's happening with the Twilight series
  • Anna
    Being heard is an important Issue and that's what's happening. Opinions are being said just like you.
  • anen87
    Taylor IS part native-american descent what people are saying is you have to be Registered in some Tribe headquarters & raised in the cultural reservation to be considered a "Real Native-American" for ex. one could be 1/8 N-A blood but if you're registered tribe member raised in the culture then you're pretty much a Native-American Indian pssh

    and What???? Jane is NOT dark skin re-read the book again she is pale with light brown hair
  • Anna
    No he's not! If you go back and look at some of the acticles it was not proven. If you go to newmoonmovie.org/2009/02/native-american-casting-scandal-sam-uley-out
    Read for yourself. And I don't know where you got your info. on being Native American?
  • kellaismyedward
    lol jane is dark and aro is pale white and jane is like a gf to aro hence why they kiss!
  • Crys
    I personally am 1/6 Lunbee Indian and for someone to say I can't claim my heritage because from their point of view I am not enough is messed up! But wait someone did say that, the US Government when they took the Native American status away from the Lumbee Tribe. And the US Government feels that you can claim Native American Status as long as you are 1/16 Native American for Scholarships and Grants. Who are we to judge what Heritage you may claim in the Melting Pot of the world! I say go Taylor!!!
  • anen87
    yeah I agree. I too didn't question about my ethnicity/race until around my teens/ adolescents which is where taylor is right now.
    As a kid you really don't care or know or understand the concept of race cause all you want to do is play & have fun whith other kids
  • Rae_is_Switzerland
    I LOVE SOLOMON AS SAM.. KEEP HIM!
  • anen87
    yeah I AGREE I Don't get that "it is like casting Kate Bosworth as Celie in The Color Purple" comment; Hugh it's not like Taylor looks like Chuck Norris (Norris has N-A ancestry but doesn't look it) I mean isn't that's why they were questioning his heritage cause he didn't look white grrrr.


    Anyway about Solomon I can understand why he would be recasted in New Moon he Suppose to be taller than Jacob & being the leader of the pack I always pictured a buff older looking guy which I don't think Solomon fits Sam's discription
  • Rae_is_Switzerland
    i agree. HE IS SAM! they cant loose him! -growls-
  • Anonymous
    I completely agree that we should keep the original actors; who cares about their origins as long as they fit the description?!?! if they can act, then they should be kept, especially solomon. I agree with the idea of a petition to keep the original actors. the other native american parts can be given to native americans as EmmaMarieUK said. But it's really just petty to change the cast due to their heritage.
  • MireilleMasen
    It's wrong that they weren't using a Native American for Sam's role but there aren't a lot of Native American actors/actresses. I'd love it if they had real Native Americans playing characters in the movie because then they would have someone representing them in a big movie. I'd be pretty upset if someone lied about their heritage in order to play a role and they're not my heritage but letting Sam go is pretty harsh too. If they knew that he wasn't really Native American why lie about it? I don't think they should find another person to play Sam but for the rest of the Quiluete tribe members who haven't been cast they should find some real Native Americans or do like they did with Taylor and make sure they have some Native American in thier blood.
  • EmmaMarieUK
    He was in the first film so keep it. Who ever was in the first they should use for the rest.
    Other native american parts should be given to native americans.
  • that is wrong that they just tell him he isnt in the movie and its wrong that they might not be using real native americans in which they should be...... this is all very weird i hope they use real native americans its wrong if they dont...........i still love taylor but i mean for the other parts in the movie that are native americans should be native americans not people with alot of makeup on..................i just want the movie to be good i still think its wrong but if they do find someone better for the part then im ok..... but...... it still should be a native american
  • mercurio1217
    are all of the actors cast to play members of the Italian Voltouri truly Italian? Are all of the actors playing vampires truly vampires? It is called ACTING, people are hired to play a character. I dont care what their heritage is as long as they produce quality work and are believable in that role and that is all that should matter.
  • lofi
    I really, really hope this isn't true. Would they recast Will Smith as Edward Cullen? No. Well, this would be just as stupid. Frankly, I had a tough enough time imagining that Taylor Lautner was Quileute. Aside from being a new racist low for humanity, it's disruptive to the story. Just let the characters be who they are. If Hollywood has a tough time finding actors in the Native American community, maybe they could work on being more actively inclusive instead of perpetuating the problem.
  • Eh, I don't care actually. I thought he was playing Quil in the first movie until I checked it up actually-- since like... Why would Jacob want to hang out with Sam? (since they didn't have the bonfire scene and all)
  • Drew
    As far as Solomon goes, I am not really upset about it, as long as the replacement does actually resemble a native american. It the first film, he quite literally was in the film for 30 seconds. When Bella is at the beach in the van, explaining she invited Edward. Sam Uley says, "The Cullens don't come here". THATS IT. You can not judge his acting abilities on those 5 words. In New moon he needs to act a lot more, so maybe Solomon just couldnt pull off the abilities to make it work. I would way rather the film be good with a new Sam than keep the same guy who had 5 words to say in the first film who has no acting abilities.
  • buffy5551
    This is garbage. While I understand that Native Americans want to be accurately represented, there is no reason to steal another actor's part away from him when he's already earned it. The fact that he isn't Native American is secondary to the fact that he has the ability to play the part (and hence, was cast in the first place). If you want to be in New Moon and you ARE a Native American, AUDITION AND QUIT ****** BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET A PART IN THE FIRST ONE! That's not Soloman's fault; or Taylor's for that matter.


    There wasn't any sort of uproar until Twilight was a phenomenon and people expect New Moon to make a lot of money... so, basically no one cares if they're being misrepresented as long as they aren't missing out on getting paid. Absurd.
  • Marti
    Plus Taylor does look Native American. It's not his fault he didn't know until last minute. Everyone learns something about themselves at the last minute. For all I know I could be Bulgarian included in my French, Irish, and English roots.
  • Drew
    I agree with Jembean. Why are these people knocking Taylor Lautner. He looks Native American, so what if he is only 1/8 native american, that 1/8 makes him a lot more native than the 7/8 of white descent making him look caucasian.
  • Marti
    They should have kept Solomon. It makes no sense in trying to change it now. They already had credited him as Sam in Twilight and didn't even credit Krys as Embry in the credits even though everyone knew he was Embry.
  • Jembean
    It is ridiculous for people to be upset that Taylor Lautner only has a little bit of native american in him..and even if he didn't have any at all! HELLO!?!? He did a GREAT job in Twilight and hes the best person for the role in New Moon. Who cares HOW MUCH he has in him.
    And btw this is NOT comparable to casting a white person in the Color Purple because first off, Taylor DOES look native american. And second, the movie isn't about Native American oppression or slavery or anything like that. In that case, I might agree because they would need someone who is fully of that race so they can sympathize more with the character.
  • colemonster
    The issue isn't about whether he was miscast or not. I personally think he did an excellent job, and his role shouldn't be recast. The issue is with the casting directors. Why couldn't they have cast a native american actor when there are so few roles out there for them (that aren't stereotypical)?
  • Sim1
    Thats foul if it is true. Does anyone know if they will be casting older Native Americans for the movie? I am 27 and Native American but so far I have only seen casting calls for teens. Any info would be great. thx
  • {sombodysbella}
    wait,what?? didnt they say he was native american in the article?? and i think there being rudiculus....just geting rid of him to find someone else more poplaur and cuter?? there doing it to make a bigger profit..hate to brake it to ya,but tons of peaple have read the twilight saga and seen the movie so summit will already get a TON of money with out fireing the guy who plays sam. Summit is just being greedy...
  • Katie
    What. The. Hell.
    Obviously, this movie is already off to a bad start. Solomon Trimble could and would be a fantastic Sam in New Moon. I think that, if this is true, then the casting directors do not understand true talent. Solomon looked the part, and could even act the part, so my question is, what is the purpose of taking him out? All you'll get, probably, is a horde of angry-Twilight-fans for changing the cast when we didn't want it that way, and a suck-ish actor when you can't find someone better than Solomon.



    God, I hate casting directors.
  • Bijou
    No way. They can't take him out! He was already credited in the FIRST movie! Why would they do that? It's completely ridiculous!
  • Twilight Luver
    What the Heck?
    The CANT change the actors(even if i dont like Sam's charcter in the books)

    it will get all cofusing!

    Its like Switching Taylor Lautner

    even if its TLhas a big role and ST dosent it dosent make scenese! (plus he dose have a big role my mistake)

    Goosh

    he was good

    u cant take him ut

    there changing al the casting roles it makes some ppl mad
  • Sarah
    NO why would they take him out????
    he's good!

    stop messing round with us about the casting please - it gets our hopes up and then brings us down with posts like this!

    i am annoyed :( we need a petition again - he's worth keeping!
  • Sarah
    NO! he cant be out! not after that poem he wrote in sam's POV to emily!


    It doesnt make sense
  • annie:]
    Why would they take Solomon out? it doesnt make sense :( I hope they do keep him..
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