I.Can't.Stand.Melissa.Rosenberg.

funny how no one complained when harry potter got darker as the books went on... apparently wizards just aren't as scary as vampires and werewolves. personally i think bd should be kept to the book. keep the violence, it plays a part. and ya know what? keep the sex. it plays a part as well. theres no reason to hide the fact that a married couple has sex. i hate to be the one to tell them this but sex is where babies come from. without sex theres no Renesmee. i have the feeling theyre going to RUIN this one and that irritates me to the fullest. i loved the books for what they are. they are emotional and driven and make you really live her experiences with her. these books bring you in and make you feel like youre there and for some writer to use movie ratings as a cop out to ruin a perfectly awesome saga just burns my a@* (im sorry was that a little too rated R for them?) in my opinion, as much as i LOVE these books, either stay true to the book or dont make the movie.

well you don't really have a seen from alien in harry potter lol I mean come on Stephenie Meyer went into great detail on the birth seen and to get the raw emotion on how its taring everybody up in the room. Melissa Rosenberg I have one thing to say make it R rated or DON'T Do it. Let Summit find some one else I mean I really Don't like your screen writing anyway twilight was so butchered from the book I mean compared to book anyway

UMM IF THEY HAVE READ THE BOOK , WHATS THE BIG DEAL?

I agree! I just wish that SM would defend her characters more when these scripts are being written! You see in interviews that she is totally "part of the transition team from book to screen" but I have a hard time with that! I guess when you create something that turns out to be bigger than yourself, it goes one of two ways in the end....you shut up and collect the check or defend and risk the check!! THE WHOLE THING IS VERY FRUSTRATING!

OK, my biggest problem is....Do none of these idiots have cable? I mean daytime soaps and the movies they play on regular T.V. get away with a lot. I have no problem with a PG-13 movie, if they keep it iwth PG-13 guidelines. There are still sex scenes within moderation and plent of gore in PG-13, but they was the writer is talking she is trying to make it G and that is crap. If you are adult enough to read, you are adult enough to see. Further more, if parental figures paid attention to what children read and controled what they read we wouldn't even be having this conversation, because the children wouldn't be reading the book so they wouldn't know what they were missing in the movie.

agread at the end, their imagination at the moment of reading would be much bigger of anything they see.

I completly agree w/all comments said. They need to stick to the book!!! If they do make BD and it ends up being a PG-13 movie, it will not do the book any justice and I am more than sure that there will be alot of disappointd fans.

What the hell?
I am 35 and I know I am not the only 30-something who loves Twilight etc as much as any 13 year old!! How can Melissa Rosenberg seriously say that the audience is 13 and things need to be toned down?? Is she kidding. The audience is NOT all 13, and for those of us who are not - I can promise you Melissa, we WANT to see the book come to life... with all the drama and all the sex. That is why people love the books so much - I mean come on!!! Get real!! You clearly need to do a little more research into who is watching these movies and reading these books - I am disheartened and offended!

I'm in my 40's and I totally agree with you. What a slap in the face her comments were. The the characters evolved and mature with each book. To say that the books are only for 13 year olds shows how out of touch this woman is. The sales didn't come from just 13 year olds. After reading her comments, I'm so worried she'll destroy them. Stick with the books!

i could not agree more i am 48 !!!!!
I think there are alot more WOMEN out there then they know that
are big time twilight fans. We just dont have the time to voice our opinion
via internet or at shopping malls as much as the younger gals.
But I to am offended by Melissa Rosenberg !!!!!!!!!!
I hope someone really reads this stuff..........

I'm an older fan as well. I think Breaking Dawn should be more adult. Bella grows up in each book, therefore the movies should as well. I agree with Melissa regarding the point that the books are about the relationships and not about blood and gore. Those are side issues. I believe Breaking Dawn can be made with a PG 13 rating and keep enough blood. I don't know how far anyone wants to take Bella and Edwards love scenes but they really don't have to be that graphic. I won't mind an R but I think it can be done with a PG 13.

Totally agree, in BD the love making scenes are simplified and you get the point without a lot of detail, innoscent. That is PG-13! The birthing scene needs to be R because in the book the description is R!! Very graphic! Each book becomes a bit more sexually charged because if you've ever been a teen and in love we became sexually charged as we grew! It's our nature. I've recently been to a movie that was R and there were definite under 18 aged kids in there. Parents are going to take or allow their kids to go no matter what. How can you tease kids with the first three and not the fourth? BD needs to be what the book is!!

I agree Kate! We are in the same age group and I would be extremely put out if she turned this series into an "after-school" special! It is far from it! I want to see it on the screen as I perceived it when I read it and it sounds like we are all in agreement about that!

Agree totally!!!! I´m soo tired and fed up of media etc saying this is teen movies

you know what??? I am so happy that its going to be PG-13, and not rated R because i know of so many people that wouldn't be able to see it if it was rated R. So just be happy that they're making it at all. I don't know what's wrong with your sick minds if you want that to be shown in a movie where teens and children love those books just as much as you. DON'T BE SELFISH!!!

DUDE, is she serious.
i mean come on now.



WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION.

she needs to put that bedroom scene in their, that's all she's been wanting..
and what WE want from edward too ;]

i don't know i can't stand her either, but i blame summit too, they just want to make more money and so they want their audience to be bigger, is late for me to say that i wish this movies were made by other studio.(like wb or paramount)

You must've missed the drama when it was released that HP6 would be PG.



Dudes, NC17 is for pron..

well firstly in the books there isnt that much violence or gore. and the movies never got a higher rating than pg13.

you are exactly right and in the newest harry potter he is naked for one scene so they have no reason not to make breaking dawn.

OMG! I totally agree. It want be as good w/out it all.....

there should be a rated and unrated edition to make everyone happy

I dont like melissa rosenberg. but you do have to think, the people making the movie want it to make big money. if they make it R rated then they cut a big chunk of money out of the movie because there is a lot of fans unwilling to see a R rated movie. if the younger fans can read the book then they can see the movie is my thought. because i have a feeling that the book if going to be a lot more detailed then the movie. also, there is a lot more violence in the other 3 books rather than in BD.... twilight theres james attacking edward.... new moon well i guess thats sort of tied with BD in the violence department.... eclipse had the whole big battle against victoria and the newborns. the only violence in BD is bella slaughtering that rock and the volturi putting irina in the fire.

grrr same here! she seems so desperate to make the saga a Disney-like sweet teen production! I would shut up and try to endure it IF the books were like this... BUT THEY ARE NOT! Move over, Ms Rosenberg... go play with the kids or something.

maaan now I'm mad & frustrated! :P

Ditto on LM and Joanna - is she kidding about the audience. One peek at the boards would show her the real story. WTF. Can we please have someone who can work in appropriate dialog - Have you noticed she's kind of on a monkey thing "Spider monkey" (I hated that line) and "My monkey man" (hated that one too). Joanna you're right - she should play monkey games with the kids>

Right on!! Couldn't have said it better myself. That line (spider monkey) was so incredibly STUPID, I mean did she even READ the books??? Edward would NEVER have said something like that. If she wants to please Twilight fans, which we're the ones who give them a job in the first place, she'll stick with the book. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT 13 yr olds going to see BD or not! When they turn 17 they can go watch it. If they are too young to see the movie they shouldn't read the book.

well said mate well said!!!
bring on the movie as true to the book as possible!!!!

amen to that :D

I totally agree i would be soo anoyed if she cut or compleately toned down scenes from BD just to appeal to a different audience. yes parts of it might be R rated but she cant change that! and twist the story around just to fit a raiting.

Yes right on oscar. they should just make the movie according to the books and then just let it be rated whatever.

Here here Oscar. I'm not someone who wants to see as much gore as possible but I would like to see a messed up birth and I want to feel the pain and agony like I was there. Toning down the story I love to make it PG-13 would piss me off to no end.

I totally agree, there is a girl I know in 5th grade who is reading Twilight right now and says she cant wait to read the whole series. I hope she is a slow reader cause I dont think she is anywhere near ready for BD. Parents should really watch what they're children are reading!!

I can't wait for my daughter to be able to read the books, but there is NO way I'd let her get anywhere near them until she was mature enough to read them ALL!

My 12 year old is the one who got me to read the books in the first place and I spent more time explaining situations than not...I finally realized that she had taken most of the 3rd and 4th book out of context because she didn't understand most of the situations! I told her that she probably shouldn't read those books again until she is older! There is way too much to explain and I don't want to influence her perception of the book!

I was thirteen when I read the whole series (which was in the Summer but now I'm 14) and I understood all the words and meanings behind them, so I think it depends on how mature you are and your reading comprehension level.

Finally someone with morals!!!

If you listen to the commentary on the DVD of Twilight you would all know that Melissa Rosenberg had nothing to do with the 'monkey' lines in the movie. The director wrote a couple of lines and Robert Pattinson himself picked the spider monkey line. Get your facts straight people.
As for M .R. saying that the violence isn't needed in the story, You can't make Breaking Dawn without the battle. The battle is VERY important to the story. same as in Eclipse. The scary and violent and sexy stuff is all key parts of the story. If she leaves any of it out she will destroy the entire story. Stick to the book, the way it was written and the way it MUST be portrayed!

I was just saying that today, how dumb the stupid "spider monkey" and then the following "my monkey man" comments were. We really need a different screenwriter who can stay more true to the story and bring out the relationships better.

And I completely agree with your other comment about 13 year olds reading the book - if they are old enough to read it then they should be able to see the movie. NO it doesn't have to show everything, but then again, the book didn't show everything - the love scenes were left to the imagination.

Well the whole spider monkey thing was actually Cathernine Hadwicke's idea. During the commentary on the Twilight DVD, she said she came up w/about 15 different lines for that scene and let Robert Pattinson pick which one he wanted to use. Turns out that one was the one he wanted. But I totally agree w/all these comments. Melissa is great at writing for the show Dexter, and that show is full of the sex, violence and gore she is so against! I feel that she is completely "Hollywoodizing" the entire Twilight series and Stephenie Meyer is letting it happen. Someone needs to grow a backbone and stand up for the great books that Stephenie has written.
All the things Melissa plans on cutting out are imperative to the storyline and must be kept. And, I love Edward as much as the next person, but when she said "You can’t have a Twilight without Rob Pattinson.” while talking about how we will see him all throughout New Moon, I wanted to scream. It's not Twilight she's working on now, it's New Moon! He's gone for a reason! And I think seeing him throughout the whole movie in these so-called visions Bella is going to have is just not going to make the reunion between Edward and Bella as emotional for the audience. Oh and how does she plan on doing the birth scene in Breaking Dawn?! That's a very bloody and gory scene, but it's important. I could keep going about this, but I won't put everyone through that. It's just very frustrating to see a great series torn apart and turned around into something unrecognizable. The fans love it for a reason.

well i didn't like catherine either, i blame them both for my disappointed with twilight. good she is gone, they should do the same with melissa.

I completely agree. I didn't know much about Catherine, but watching the DVD, I realized she's a very strange woman. And I also realized she was another big reason I was disappointed w/the movie. Like when I was watching the extended and deleted scenes, some of the ideas she had for when Bella first dreamed of Edward, and she practically jumps out of the bed in her panties and a little shirt and pulls Edward down on top of her and they start making out like crazy.....just doesn't strike me as very "Twilighty" LOL

it was just too much for twilight, even the first first was so passionate, not like innocent, i would expect this kiss for eclipse or something.

Hell Yeah!!

I look at Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings etc and I wonder...what the hell happened???? I've read all those books and seen the movies and was VERY pleased with how they went from script to screen. I often wonder if another production company like Fox or Universal had picked Twilight up it would have been done differently????

I couldn't agree with you more. No need to take "artistic license" with something that works so well in the books. Make the damn movie like the book! If the screen writer wants to write original material, do it somewhere else but not with our beloved saga!

I am so glad that there are others who feel the way I do! I just wish we could all do something about it! I can't believe though, that they don't know what the fans want! Unless they all live under a rock, they have to know we want it more like the book. And I've heard New Moon is supposed to be more like the book, but something is telling me in the back of my mind that Melissa may screw us over again, especially w/the "visions"....and this nightmare I keep hearing about that Bella is supposed to have that makes Edward look evil. I just think they feel that the little teeny boppers won't want to see the movie if Edward isn't featured all throughout the movie, so they're changing it to please them. Infuriating.

I'm with you completely. The combination of her screen writing and the director of Eclipse scare me. At least Chris Weisz has a track record of adapting books to screen - I really do have faith in him. Eclipse is my fav. and I just worry that it's in the wrong hands. Also, what concerns me is that Stephenie has never put anything on her site about the director of Eclipse despite the fact that Summit put out a press release. I can only hope it won't come to fruition.

I have faith in Chris too. I think he can make this movie into something way greater than the first one. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. But I'm totally w/you about the Eclipse thing. I haven't been on Stephenie's site lately, and that is shocking to hear that she hasn't put anything about the new director on there yet....

I agree! I believe any of the others could have done a fantastic job on these films! And picked a better writer for the script! I figured after the first debacle w/Twilight they would have replaced Melissa. I mean, don't get me wrong, I LOVE Twilight, I just think the script could have been written better. If they would just stick to events that happened in the books and not add unnecessary scenes that never happened, that would be a HUGE improvement!

yes the movie couldve been better but i didnt see any unecessary scenes being added in. unless im wrong...i do believe tho that new moon will be very close to the book except for the dream sequences and the visions

there were a few added scenes. in the book, bellas truck was at her house when charlie brought her home from the airport, in the movie billy and jacob brought it to her. bella wasn't supposed to meet jacob until the trip to the beach. in the book they never took a field trip to a greenhouse. in the book they never climbed trees. there was never no mention in the book about james' coven attacking the locals, and for that matter, charlie's friend waylon never existed. bella and edward didn't stop by the police station after they left from port angeles. they added the scenes from the cafe when in the book, bella does all the cooking. they added the scene w/the apple in the cafeteria. they added victoria into the prom scene in the movie, which never happened in the book. when bella goes to meet the cullens at their home, they are cooking italian food for her, which did not happen in the book.

yea i noticed after watching it again the other day, the part of bella's truck and jacob wasnt in the book. wow, they added a lot of stuff, some unnecessary, when they could've added more scenes with bella and edward. cos even tho i hadnt read the book then, when i saw the movie i wasnt satisfied with it. it felt like it was missing something. guess i was right.

Don't you think Edward would've heard Victoria's thoughts if she is at the prom? Or that Alice would've saw Victoria going to the prom? I don't they thought about that. =/

if you watch the dvd with the director comments you will find out that it was Rob Pattison's idea to say spider monkey...just fyi

It actually said that CH wrote down a few lines and asked Robert to chose and the spider monkey was the one he chose.

well spider monkey was in the book.

Where? I challenge you to find it.

i could;ve sworn it was in the book, but im not gonna look it up now cos i feel like crap. i'll look it up tomorrow. why dont u look it up if u care so much?

LOL - you said it - you gotta do the work! I just re-read it and I didn't see it. I'm off on Eclipse again. Let me know if you find it. : )

i read the book so fast, i dont remember much stuff. and i just finished new moon some days ago and dont remember some stuff from there either! i'll have to reread all of them once i finish the other 2.

Check out Sugar's comment above. Maybe that's where you've heard about "spider monkey"

yes i have,.

Not in the Twilight I just read for the 4th time.

okay thanks,

''Spider monkey" was Catherine's idea and not Rosenberg"s. Actually Cathrine had chosen reveral lines there and she had Rob picked the one he liked most. You know Rob, he picked spider monkey, and guess what...that was Catherine's favourite.LOL. As for BD hands off we want the real thing all of it.

i share u'r feelings and frustation...ggggrrrrrr....it's not a disney world ever pink production, it's a vampire-werewolf intense love story!!!!! we wanna see that on the screen too +.+

Agree!

now i am so scare about new moon and for that reason eclipse too, apart for breaking dawn, i was sooooo disappointed with twilight and now she is ruining the other books too, god those are my fav books(not that i have read much), let me tell you something, there is new moon without rob because we handled that in the book and we met jacob to kind of replace him(not that he is replaceble), but ok that may work.

so what the mo does that mean (in response to Rosenberg's comments) will we be seeing bella pregnant then blackout...oh look here is renesmee? we HAVE to see what happens because it is BIG! LMCullen please write the script for us because Rosenberg is trying too hard to please 13 year olds.

I agree, I think that if it is PG-13, then it will not be as detail oriented as it should be. I mean, yea, when she has her daughter in the book it is brutal, but still it is important to see that struggle and how she had her and stuff. It could at least go for NC17 to show a little bit more. They need to remember that people over the age of 14 or 15 love the books too!

i think its pure bullcrap...rosenberg SAYS that she's trying to please everyone..but like twifan89 said..she's just trying to please 13 year olds...i bet there are probably as much adults as kids that love twilight...im sorry but if there isn't any gore or violence in there i won't watch it..and i dont mean an excessive amount of gore and violence either..and yes the relationship between edward/bella is the most important..but thats not all thats in the book...and i agree with jamie..they could at least go for NC17

Er.. NC-17 is worse than R. I doubt that'll happen even moreso than R! R rating isn't allowed for under 17. NC-17 isn't allowed for 17 itself and under. So yeah... R is some adult content, whereas NC-17 is classified as purely adult content. It'd be funny if they were making that movie and Taylor was 17.. he wouldn't be allowed to see his own movie. haha.

hey im 13 but ill be 15 when the movie comes out probably!!!! i want to see those scenes but not full on i dont want to run out of the theater screaming!!

then what did you do when you read the book?? laugh?? If you are a big girl enough to read the book you should be able to deal with it on screen!!

Personally, I find it totally different. It is one thing to come up with your own mental picture, but it is a totally different thing to have it put out in front of you on the screen like that. When it is up there, you are watching someone else's view of the situation. So it could be a good or bad thing.

are you planning on skipping a full year in 6 months? 0.0

haha i know. i was like whatttt?

I think she's probably right, New Moon won't be out until November 2009, Eclipse until 2010. I can't imagine Breaking Dawn making it out until probably 2011 since there is still debate about if it will be a movie:)

yeah i just re read the previous posts and realized she is probably talking about breaking dawn, not new moon.
i'm sorry :(

No worries:)

ok don't hate on me too much, but I agree with twirish. I am 16 and would be able to see it when it comes out, but I don't want to see it full on. After all, the book is told from bella's perspective and honestly i don't think she would have been as detail oriented when it came to give birth. Even on the honeymoon everything she mentioned on them having sex was implied, no details. The only reason the birth scene is so detailed is because it is from Jacob's point of view and his character is more open about that stuff. So I totally support them in trying to keep the book PG 13 and I think the movie will be great regardless.

You are totally right. Being old enough to get into an R movie does not mean a person wants to see the birth scene in the same way it was written. It's kind of like the reason Bella drank from a paper cup with a lid. She knew what was happening and that it was necessary, but wasn't quite up for dealing with the situation on all levels.

Good comparison

It was Edwards idea for the cup. When Rosalie went to the kitchen to make it he simply says "Not clear" and when Rosalie came back with the white cup Jacob says he then understook what not clear meant.

Furthermore, I feel it's an important scene to have in the film because it shows the lengths Edward, and Jacob for that matter, are willing to go to save her life and Renesmee's as well. It shows how far he has come to deal with his instincts and how he is able to rise of that.

i think that that's stupid. even if the birth scene is from jacob's point of view it's still what's happening, unless he's having hallucinations. how else are they planning to have the birth scene? like a normal baby? I don't think so. Edward tears into her stomach with his teeth.. please tell me how you make that pg 13. if you agree with them trying to dumb it down then you're obviously not that into the book.

plus, what if people go to see the movie who haven't read the book? they won't understand it at all.

I don't think it is really dumbing it down.... I think by making it pg 13 they would just be making it more appropriate for a wider range of audiences. There are ways to create these scenes without the R rating. Some people on this site just need to stop whining and give it a chance. The people working on these movies are professionals and they will do what is best for the film which may not be the best for the book, but when are the movies ever as good as the books they are based on?

I want it like the book! she should souuu not play it down and make it disney like!!!
i totally agree bellas WHOLE pregnancy is so important. they cant cut that out! nor the honey moon! i mean its fine not showing the sex part cuz yea. but make it like the book.where it is pretty much implied. but dont cut it out completly!!

exaclty! great minds think alike ;-)

I agree, there are ways to portray a sex scene without showing much (anyone seen Out of Sight?). As for the blood and gore of the birth scene, if they can pull off making me feel what everyone in the house if feeling than I'm ok. Only thing is I don't think that it's possible to dummy down all the drama that was going on in a kid safe way. Who cares if it's too much for 13 year olds. I would rather the pre-teens wait until they're older than the rest of the world suffer through watching watered down Breaking Dawn.

Maybe they should hire her to write High School Musicals 4-20!!!! She seems better-suited for that genre, it would seem. The way the last two books are portrayed is extremely important! I think we could have seen more in the first movie; they say they are staying closer to the book for this movie but if she screws up the last two....I WILL BE PISSED!

Definitely!!! the last two books are way to important to be down played! i will be extremely angry if things are changed up a lot! im not adverse to change, but it has to go along enough with the storyline as if it were already a part of the book!

she's trying to kill us, that's what rosenberg's trying to do Y.Y ...and she'll kill me from a fulminant heart attack because of the irritation...

noooo, no heart attack!!! stay alive so that we can get her outta here if she messes it up!

lol u'r right, 1,2,3,4,5 1,2,3,4,5....breath, breath o.o....ok i feel a bit better now... we have to be united, so forget about the heart attack :D

Haha! I was thinking the same thing. BD needs to stick to the book. There is no way that this movie can have a PG-13 rating!!!

they dont have to show the baby coming out of the hole, ya know. ive never seen that in a movie or on t.v. but her giving birth, yeah it can be shown/

i'll tell you one movie that did that...Knocked Up...but anyway they don't have to show that because it doesn't happen. i just don't know how in the world they would do the c-section? i guess that's what it could be called. it's a very intense scene i just don't know what will happen.

ew, good thing i didnt see it!
we'll just have to wait and see, besides, it hasnt even been green lit either.

well, the problem is that she doesn't have the baby the 'traditional' way...he chews it out of her! I know that it sounds gross to say but I want to see that! He started out hating 'it' because it was killing her but in the end was determined to save Renesmee for them both! Very emotional and a huge swing scene in the book! I want to see her get that right!

yes that is very true! Edward actually gets that close to her blood and withstands it! he shows the extent of his will and how hard he will fight for her. Very important and i do hope it is done right!

Birth is not a bad thing. I have 10 children and all of my children have witnessed their siblings being born. Blood/amniotic fluid and all! The birth scene from BD is a bit different, Uterus being ripped open by Edward's teeth. I'm not so sure they could make this scene PG13 and convey what they need toand stay true to the book.

i never said birth is a bad thing, but some people can't stomach it, especially if this one is more graphic, the way it was written. like you said, its gonna be hard to portray that. let's what they'll do with it. i bet they wont add him ripping her out tho, i got a feeling about that.

let's See what*

Eew, I just imagined the sounds that would make

LOL! That's great writing - explains your emotions perfectly! Down with Rosenburg! Let LMCullen write the script!

woot woot! Alrighty .. lets start a petition site ... Will .. come on, make me a site, u game? LMAO!!!!!!! ahahahaha

LOL! And don't forget the part where Bella is on the phone with Carslisle and asks "Can vampires go into shock?"

god i have to read this book again cuz i love it too much!

omg yes! i love that part!! jaja. i want to see that. and when bella calls rose to.!! ughh they should just completly stik to the book!! dont leave anything out!

ROTFL!!! OMG that was hilarious!!!! hehehehee now thats in my head!!

Hey if your gonna write the script......PLEASE have a very detailed sex scene (as much of edwards body as possible please). I think we all waited long enough to finally get to that part. All through the first three I was like "when the hell is it gonna happen?". I loved the cottage shaking comment. you guys are so damn funny

I guarantee an R rating

And no K Stew nudity! I just don't want to see that! lol


I feel like a politician promising you guys stuff haha .. difference is ... I WILL make you proud! lol

I just want to see all the feathers everywhere and a broken headboard....that will be enough to bring chills to my bones!

but when you start writing remember that there was more to the book than naked Edward :D
PLUS a script is supposed to be longer than one scene on one page! LMAO

(still, I won't complain if you accidentaly forget about above-mentioned tips :D)

i bet u will make us proud hehehe...today u start a new career :D

And I know this goes off the whole sex scene topic, but I WOULD LOVE to see Bella & Emmit's arm wrestling scene... they CAN'T leave that out.... loved it!

Or when she kicks Jacob's butt for imprinting on her daughter, I would love to see that scene.

PLEASE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets kick this B***h to the curb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I second that motion - who is with me?

tottaly with u!

AMEN!!!!!

AMEN!!

AMEN. Melissa Rosenberg is so annoying. She's not doing a really good job with the script. She's taking all the important things away.

I'll support that! Go LMCullen, show Melissa how its done! LOL

did melissa rosenberg actually read the books? there was no school trip in twilight Hello - and where is the bloodtyping part - she totally missed it - did she skip that chapter when she read it - tried to find website for her to ask her as that part is an essential part - it sets all the remaining books - when you finish and then go back and read them again - because you loved them and got obsessed with them and read through them so fast that you actually missed stuff - you see that she was always meant to be a vampire and be with edward - because she smelled the blood and humans can't smell blood - ps you didn't have to advertise that jacob black was a werewolf - people who read the book know and people that didn't and just watched the movie would have then read the series and know - please get another writer - how about you let stephanie meyer write the screenplay - seeing she's the author - or maybe let her approve it - also they reason for success of harry potter as the movies and characters grew as the books did - stay true to they books and if breaking dawn gets r by the time it comes out everyone watching who's pg will be in r movies - plus do you really think kids are that stupid and sheltered? this is the real world melissa - open your eyes

You forgot to mention how Mike, Tyler, and Ben/Eric were nowhere near as annoying in the books as she made them in the movie (actually, I didn't cringe when they came around in the book like I did when they were on screen. Jessica/Lauren was the only "human" that felt real every time we saw her). Holy crap I hope their characters are more mature in this next film.

she really has no idea what fans want!

I agree with ya, if she has her way then all we as fans will get out of eclipse and bd will be a watered down version. how dare she play down some of the most important sceens. Hopefully Step. will step up and stick up for what she wrote, and bring her vision for those books to the big screen not rosenbergs.

i agree. she talked about toning down some of the adult scenes....so, don't get me wrong..a lot happens in breaking dawn and i'm not all about the sexy stuff going on in the book but it's important as well, right?.....do you think they'll show Edward and Bella's honeymoon and all or what? (and by all, y'all know what i mean) ^^

I think we won't get anything more than what we got in twilight, in BD..
at most it will be Edwards naked chest in the water and a Bella walking towards him, but only seeing her back, and only on her when all you can see is her back.. and then it fades to morning... ofcourse no nudity.. god forbid we have some nudity! the other 'sex' scenes in the book will all be kissing on the bed and black-ou *woosh* morning...

Bella pregnant will probably show the huge belly and the bruises, but no throwing up blood etc... the birth scene will probably be Bella screaming and puffing and maybe edward biting who's about to bite her belly open and a fade/black-out "because bella wouldn't remember seeing that" *sarcasm*.... and then the baby is born, but you won't see the blood and Bella half dying there... edward will hand Jake the baby and all that and edward will fix her up...

and the first thing we'll see after that is Jacob walking down the stairs, after Rose took Nessa (:P), and him wanting to go kill it.. and then just freezes.. after that Bella half waking (with her eyes closed to hide the pain) and everyone standing there watching..

and gone is gore and anything that might upset 12 year olds and that big man in Rome...

oh.. and Bella will of course not be naked when she's giving birth (not like i'd want to see that or anything).. she'll just be wearing sweat pants and a loose shirt.. so the shirt will just be up just under teh breast line and the pants will stay on.. and the pbaby won't bite her boob (XD) it'll probably bite her arm or whatF..

i think you're right about how the scenes will turn out!

"that big man in Rome"....LOL

don't know, but i think it would be a crime if she toned it down to much....plus they could make it into 2 movies both could be pg 13, to look at it from a ratings issue make the wedding, honey moon, and half of jacobs part in the book into one movie. then go with the rest of jacobs version and then bella being a vampire into another, they could still have the scenes that need to be in the movies without having to tone down too much and still be able to come in at the pg 13 level. If thats too hard then maybe they need to get someone who writes for a soap to come in and write the screenplay, look at all the stuff they do with those now-a-days. thats just my opinion on bd. Now as for Eclipse sorry hate to break it too Melissa that violence is a part of that book you can't down play, to do that would be to lose a lot of the storyline, unless they decide to off Victoria in NM instead of waiting till Eclipse like in the series

ok, I certainly agree, with you, Eclipse does needs to have the fighting scenes, + there really wouldn't be any blood or gore in the fighting scenes for Eclipse, and I agree with what you said about BD, or even if it was 14A, it would be fine.

You are not alone! Trust me!!

What is this lady thinking? PG??? Heaven help us for Eclipse and BD.

She is so going to ruin it, ruin the true essence and beauty of Eclipse and Breaking Dawn.

If Bella doesnt seduce Edward in Eclipse, there will be hale to pay!!!

yea. there are going to be souuu many disapointed fans!! jaja. I was so pissed with twilight when they didnt show the relationship bella and edward have i mean there are like a total of 2 kiss scenes in the moovie when in the book there are about a million and how bella faints or gets dizzy or goes crazy when edward kisses her i mean that was so imp! ughh! get a new Screenwriter! or just stik to the book!!! like exactly like the book!

Maybe the right course of action would be to contact Summit....they are the "bank-roll" for these films and they want what will entice you to spend money! If you want more graphic detail, you as the consumer, should get it!

SO HEAR ME, SAGA FANS! YOU WANT TO PROTECT WHATS LEFT? I DO, LET'S START AT THE TOP!

You are so totally right, if she doesn't pick up the standard and keep it to the book and if Stephenie does not speak out, we will not have much to look at in eclipse or BD. I hated the pace of Twilight it was way too fast, no relationship more like lust.
out of topic did anyone else notice that the kiss scenes where more like french kisses and open mouth kisses. I thought the whole purpose of close lip kisses where so that his poisoned saliva would not turned her into a vampire. Am I wrong? I thought I read about it, I will have to re-read the books but it truly annoyed me because shouldn't she be a vampire then?

Totally Agree with aleCullen!! I love those parts in the books where he touches and kisses her and she just loses herself to him...that was not shown well in Twilight at all Maybe we will get lucky in New Moon. I really want to hear those three little words come out too!! I <3 U!!

Ah i hate how she protrayes their relationship. She doesn't show how their relationship develops at all!!! it never lets you know how hard it is to be around her and how he can't even touch her cuz he's afraid he's gonna break her!!! Ah and they totally ruined the meadow scene. They made it totally pointless!!!! And what is with the make out scene for their first kiss!!! On the first kiss he stops her as soon as she responds pretty much. Edward and bellas love and relationship is so much deeper and meaningful than what they show.

they should keep it exactly like the book they took too many good parts out of twilight. she should go make a cinderella movie.

I'm with you!

I am not a fan of hers either.

Yeah I agree. But then I personally don't want to see a gore movie.
She can clean it up a bit, but not so much that it isn't Breaking Dawn anymore!!

yeah, I agree with Elloo.

Haha....my sentiments EXACTLY. I wish they would get rid of her a**.

I totally agree they should follow the book, being pregnant is a fact of life I understand that this was a more intense birth scene, but it leads up to how Edward saves Bella's life and turns her into a vampire it is a pivotal moment in the book. Regardless of the rating I think parents of those young girls will accompany them to the movie and by the age of 13 mom or dad should have explained what is meant by giving birth and what not! I wonder if there is a way of getting this message to the writer/director/stephanie meyer and let her know that if it is tamed down or just alluded to and somewhat passed by that it's just going to disappoint her fans and ruin the underlying message in the novel.

I don't think they should play down parts in Breaking Dawn. Even if their main audience are the young teens. They obviously have already read the book, and therfore know what's going on. Your imagination is far more creative and leaves more room to ponder on things, than to just see it. If teens have already read the books, I do not think that they should take things out of the movie. They will ruin it. And If it's too violent, graphic, or for a more mature audience, they shouldn't be seeing it. That is their parents responsibility. Afterall one of the book's genre is young adult, not tweenys. You shouldn't ruin the movie for everyone just because many young teens like it. They have read the book, what's wrong with seeing it? And I completley agree that you should either stay true to the book or not make the movie at all. Im pretty sure at about sixth grade they cover sex and where babies come from in elementry schools. Big deal. It's a part of life, and so is violence, all those things they want to tone down in the movie are huge/important parts in the book. I can almost asure you that if they don't stay true to the book, there will be a lot of upset and disappointed fans. Not only the older ones, but the young teenagers too. These arent kiddie books. So the movies shouldn't be either.

I agree, I can't believe they would be willing to compromise the entire integrity of the book. Also, did they ever think that their "mostly teen audience" has already been exposed to all of the violence and sex when they first read the book??? Sex and violence is no different in print then on a movie screen! In fact, it might almost be worse in print. Honestly, the violence in the novel would hardly scare a toddler and as for the sex scenes, Stephenie Meyer kept it pretty tasteful. I would be very upset if they decided to change anything because the way it was written was how it was intended to be. The movies are the only visual representations we have of the books and it just wouldn't be Breaking Dawn if those aspects of the book were not included.

she is pissing me off
UGH!

arghhh! i really really hope they stick to the books. they aren't childrens novels!!! keep breaking dawn how it is in the book!!! all the little kiddie fans can watch it when their older, and im sure they'd rather wait to see a good movie than see a crappy g-rated version! edward and bella are married! thats setting a good example for kids. its not even that violent.. apart from the bit when she has nessie, eclipse is worse. lemme guess, theyre gonna make eclipse crap too. it would be selfish of them 2 make it pg so that little kids can watch and they make more money. they are teens novels, and heaps of yound adults read them too.
the only thing i hope they do cut out is bella kissing jacob in eclipse!(the second time, but not when she punches him) ! eww. i tore out page 525. [[shudder]].
i hope they stay true to all the books, the twilight novel is wayy better than the movie.

I'm telling you all...if you want to see the last two movie done the right way....she can't have anything to do with them! I don't know who hired her to do the adaptation but if it was Summit...everyone should contact them! They want to make money off these films - it's their only goal actually - and if they come across any information - such as popular opinion that might effect that...they might be more apt to change it! Maybe we should start an online petition? I am very protective, at this point, on how these last two will be done.... for myself, I want them done the right way! WHO'S WITH ME?

Listen, I make a petition to take Melissa off from the Breaking Dawn script.
If you agree with me she shouldn't make BD, you can sign the petition here:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/melissaout/s...
I really love her, but I don't agree that she makes something like that with the best book in the twilight series.

Okay...I signed the petition! But there also needs to be on made for Eclipse as well! EVERYONE NEEDS TO GO TO THE LINK ABOVE AND SIGN YOU NAME TO PROTECT IT....IT COULDN'T HURT!

me too i mean you think since they have all this money from all of us going to the theater seventeen times to see twilight lol they could have fired her and hired someone more um idk BETTER?!!? I mean i think if breaking dawn has to be rated R then it should because the movie will be better if they stick to the book and the only way they can do that is if they rate the movie R. I mean what is the big deal kids who can't go see this movie shouldn't be reading that book anyway well actually i take that back i mean idk but the only way the movie will be good is if it is just like the book and the movie has to be rated R than.

The movie needs to be rated R if they want to stay true to the book. They ruined the first movie by taking out some of the more intimate scenes with Bella and Edward (simple things like putting his face on her neck and seeing if he can handle it). If they take out the sex and bloody birth (I have had 3 kids and child birth is bloody in real life too) then they are ruining the story. All of the books lead up to the moment that they finally get married and have sex. I actually hope they will be daring and show them together rather than fading to black and waking up covered in feathers. They can't just stop with 3 movies! If they do make the fourth one, stay true to it, be daring. Not all of the Twilight fans are teens. I would guestimate at least half are adults and probably spend just as much on the franchise as the kids do. Besides, if their parents let them read the book, then what is the big deal about staying true to it for the movie? Melissa Rosenberg, PLEASE make it true to the book and stop worrying about the teenie boppers! The story is about the romance so what is the point if you take it away?

I totally agree with you there......eclipse and breaking dawn need to be kept true to nature as they were written in the books....because all readers have created their own images of the graphic scenes and if the movie comes out, and the imagination level is really soppy then WE are going to be SOOOO dissappointed. Those action scenes are what made us stop breathing and continue turning those pages!! I think as the movie saga continues....the rating should get to a higher grade. more older teenages, young adults. i cant imagine the little twilighters and midgets watching the battle scene in eclipse and the birthing scene in breaking dawn...and those scenes CANNOT be played down!!!!!

I think they need to stay true to the book and use the graphic scenes. They say it's a teen audience and all but more than likely the teen going to see the movie has read the book and all the graphic details about the book so why take that away from the movie??? I would also hope that they show more romance between Edward and Bella. They need to show them being very into each other and all kissy and stuff because thats how it is in the book and that's what i want to see in the movie.

Keep the movie like the book or else why even make it into a movie!!!!! They are going to have some really unhappy fans if they make breaking dawn into some crappy kiss face i love you and i push the baby out in 2 pushes and we live happily ever after crap. I am also mad that they keep saying there fan base is teenage kids.....i'm i am 28 and i love the books and i know many people who are not teens that are into it so they have a wider range of people than what this douche bag is saying~replace her and let someone with half a brain write the script!

I'm 39yrs old and my 16yr old daughter and I adore the books. Melissa Rosenberg must be wearing rose coloured glasses. Twilight (movie) was fine to have as PG but as the books are transformed into movies the rating should change too. Don't destroy the movies by softening the sex or birthing scenes. Certainly there are elements that cant be shown but for the love of peace dont destroy what is a huge part of what Bella actually goes through emotionally and physically as this shows the viewers that may not have read the book why Bella is the way she is. Stephanie Meyer wrote the books to show us what Edward and Bella's love goes through - the good and bad. Keep it real. Keep to the book. If Melissa Rosenberg can't see the big picture or for that matter if Summit is afraid of stepping on fragile toes then give the job to someone else that will be true to the books. Look at LOTR trilogy. These movies would have been completely different if Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh didn't work together to get the scripts correct - there were variations from book to movie but that is always the case but the major guts of the book was in the movies.
Harry potter movies have changed dramatically from book to movie - the books are great but as each movie comes out major parts are changed - not good as this puts viewers off in watching the movies again and again. My only disapproval of Twilight movie was too much was cut out as the book had so much more than what was shown. 1.5hr movie did not do the Twilight book justice. Hopefully New Moon will be longer and have more guts to it.

Commendable that Rosenberg wants to keep it toned down for the younger fans, but PG-13- no way is that do-able in Breaking Dawn. She should be focusing more on a NC-17 rating or something along those lines. Fans are growing up and want more. On TV you can see more than in a PG-13 movie, and trust me the young fans have been exposed to much worse as a whole, regardless of what the parents think. I say let it ride, make this what it should be, true to form. I would love to see them limits be pushed, and trust me there will be no one complaining!
HEY MELISSA- HEADS UP- WE NEED AND WANT MORE- MAKE IT AT LEAST BOARDERLINE SEXY OR RATHER PASSIONATE. WE ARE NOT TALKING IMACULATE CONCEPTION.

I really think that if you need to make the movie rated R to get in all the action of Breaking Dawn then be my guest and go ahead and do it. But I see no reason for that the book doesn't even go into detail about Isle Esme or even the birthing scene because it was told by Jacob. But there has to be blood the whole freaking series is about vampires so of course there is going to be blood. Which I see no reason to rate it R. thats just my opinion.

The way the book was written, and the way it will be portrayed on screen AND rated are completely different. There is A LOT of blood in BD. And if they keep Edward ripping open Bella's womb w/ his teeth .... then yeah, they'll have to go R.

Its all going to depend on the script, and the director.

honestly..it should be rated like R..but cmon..do you kno how many people aren't of that age..(to see R movies)? It just wouldnt be the slightest bit fair to any of the younger fans who've supported twilight just as much as the older people. So i'm really hoping they rate it PG-13.."/


they'll lose soo much publicity..
ugh. just cross your fingers!!

thank you so much! i totally agree with it all. cause i'm only 15 and i wouldn't go see a rated r movie anyways

i honestly didnt think there was that much r rated details in the book, i have friends that agree with me. im only 15 too

ya i think people are selfish that want it rated r cause then not everybody can go see it. so i'm all for pg-13!!

I'm all for rated R!!!! Sorry to the younger fans!!!

But I want to see some steamy love scenes!!!!

I want to see feathers!!!

and a broken headboard...torn negligee....!

Not too fussed about the torn negligee, but I want to see Edward skinny-dipping at least!

OMG!!!!!!

There go those naughty thoughts again!!!!!! Mmmmmm, Rob naked!!! Yes!!!!

Definitely need an R rating!!!

O crap....You guys are horrible....not only those scenes but the ones in the cottage.....both are vamps, YEA ITS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! okay well im calling my husband...2nd honeymoon here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! feathers and all baby LMAO

Hot, vampire nookies!!!!! That's what I'm talking about!!!!!

Yeah....i hear ya about that 2nd honeymoon....already have had mine!!!! I'm thinking about the 3rd one!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your freaking hilarious!!!!! i love reading everyone comment on this!!!

OMG me too!! I am loving all the comments!!!

yes! the cottage! and how they didn't make it to the bed!
LOL that's it, I'm off to put my head in the bucket with some ice cubes inside :P

omg i tottaly forgot about that one!!! yea bring on the R!! jaja they sou cant cut all that out!

OME, I forgot about this scene too! PLEASE don't leave any of it out!!! I will be so disappointed if I don't get to see him naked. For us grown ups do it right Summit!!!

I feel bad for the maid who cleans up your hotel room! haha

Me too...if theres a hotel left standing. I bet he wont see this coming LMAO

lmao! I'm sure he won't mind! haha

Damn RIGHT!!!

ooh it has to be r i forgot about that bit *drool*

Oh Gah! How am I supposed to work now that I have that visual in my head?????

I am submitting payroll and everyone is going to upset because their hours are going to be messed up! LOL.....

I'm glad it's not Friday, I would be doing payroll then and everyone would be mad at me...LOL

oh definately a must!

Yeah, with Bella. *Meow*

oh yeahhhh!!!

YES, and the frustration on his face when she's crying after waking up that night!!!

100% AGREE broken headboard and feathers are a MUST!

hale and I want to the see cottage shaking!!

i love the part in the cottage when bella says "we laughed together, and the motion of our laughter did interetsting things to the way our bodies were connected, effectively ending that conversation" LOL

LMAO! I want to see the beds all f***ed up by Edward overwhelmed...humm....pleasure!!!

Totally agree! That and something a lil more adventurous considering it's vampires... sex on the ceiling? LOL

You have it all played out in your head already dont you?

girl its on repeat in my head EVERYDAY!! LMAO

LMAO maybe thats y your single

nah no normal man can keep up with the wolf girl inside me! LOL

LMAO...you are a piece of work. If they cant keep up than kick em to the crub LMAO

"YEAH BABY YEAH" bring on the lovin!!! LOL

Maybe you and Rob could act out a scene together . . . just for acting purposes, of course. ;]

After the pictures where posted earlier with my Daniel aka Felix I cannot be swayed lol. As much as I love Robert I would much prefer to jump the bones off Daniel! LMAO

Well maybe you two can just show R&K how its done ;]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that it will have to be rated R to be any good.
And hey I'm legal, so that's all that matters to me!

and i will by the time it comes out!!! yey

YAY for you!!!! =D
My sister will be too...and that's all that matters to me! haha

Ill be..18!!!! Woohoo..So yeah, i can go see it!!! without parental supervision, but id take my aunt..shes obsessed like me!!!

haha good for you! =D
I'll prob still take my dad because I'm making him read them too! haha
He likes them, but he definately won't admit that!

Yep me too! SOOOOO EXCITED!

I completely agree. They may able to get by with rating 'New Moon' and 'Eclipse' as PG-13, but not 'Breaking Dawn!' Mainly, I just hope it's "Titanic-size," as in a 3 hour movie. They can't leave anything out!!!

I couldn't agree more! :)

OMG if they change that hornyness between edward and bella , i will hurt someone. LMAO

there will be queue forming to beat the hell out of Melissa for ruining a perfect scene if that happens.

then I guess I'll see you guys there... I'll be the one holding the biggest baseball bat ;)

baseball bat? why in the hale are you gonna go easy on her...im bringing MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

LOL love it...you got hummer?!

I think a tank would be more appropriate

nope but for this Ill rent one. I need to calm down....i swear if they screw this movie up im going to go crazy.....wait she's doing eclipse!!!!!!!!!!! we are so F****n screwed. Yup this is it THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

I know eclipse has the bella and edward scene on edwwards couch....she better now edit that else I'll be getting deedee wet dish rag!

I hope deedee has more than one because im gonna shove em up that scanks A** if she ruins those movies,,,once their made you cant go back, and when im done with her she'll wish she could ...

ok now I'm imagining the headlines... "Breaking Dawn screenwriter dishragged and then hit by a tank driven by a group of enraged Twilighters."

LOL the vision is almost as funny as the Twilight cheesburger video!

Remind me to stay away from you two when these movies come out! haha

I promise to help!

OMG Joanna86!!! ROFLMAO!!! I am so in with you!!!

I know, I love the lines
"Bella would you please quit trying to take your clothes off?"
"Do you want to do that part?"
lol

LMAO I love that too!

That's probably why she didn't show her face a the Book Festival this weekend. She's afraid the fans would tear her limb from limb and then set fire to her. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

she has to be a masochist, there's just no other way to explain what she's doing :P

I'll be in it, front of the line with you ladies! We can bring our pitch forks and beating sticks!

I agree.....we need to see that between them!!!! They better include it!!!!

hale yeah

Hale Yes!!! Bring on Breaking Dawn!!!!

I'm having a hard enough time waiting for New Moon, we can't start talking about Breaking Dawn! I'll seriously never survive!

LMAO!!!! I know....we just like to torture ourselves!!!

we're masochistic too

Good one!

We're all sick, masochistic lion/esses. That's why we fuel our need for the movie by going on this site, which makes the day stretch longer...

You are so right! Now I cant wait to see some action on Isle Esme. LOL

Mhmmmm what are you thinkin LOL i think i know! =)

My thoughts right now are not even mild enough for a "R" rating, they are way beyond that. LOL

XXX.....that's where my mind is!!!!

yep lets see how new moon and eclipse pan out before we even start thinking about BD

I AGREE 110% Love, love, love this book and want to see it done right!

the steaminess aside my second best scene of that book is the arm wrestle between Bella and Emmet....I was pissing my pants reading that! I hope she doesn't edit out some of these funny scenes because I know the arm wrestle isn't crucial to the plot but I just gotta kellen and kirsten doing this!

Uh I need that scene too! I think that every scene with Emmett should be in the movie! More Kellan less whatever they want to put other than Kellan! haha
But that scene would definately be amusing with those two!

I am sure they won't give a steamy love scene. Or nudity. They can convey it with flashes of Bella's back and Edward's chest/back, though. They can make a love scene with just flashes and glimpses. They could show pillow-ripping or headboard crushing even. It can appeal to older fans without corrupting minors.

As for the birth.. there can be blood and obvious shows of pain. As for Bella, they *could* keep a bra on Kristen so it's a compromise between wearing a shirt or being bare on top. It's really not that difficult to convey what Stephenie wrote and to titillate the fans without scarring the younger set. haha.

im down for rated R. . . . theres so many parts of the movie that need to be a certain way!

Honestly, if she is going to "tone down" the book, then she is going to ruin it!!!!!!

Replace her Summit, before she destroys my Now favorite book!

This is true... if they can hire a new director for each movie then why not a new screen writer???

Exactly my take on this. I think they should have replaced her after the outcome of Twilight, but I'm all for second chances. But now, from what she is saying of her intentions of BD, I'm definately pro for having her be replaced.

Off with her head! LOL

You goin' into Wonderland?

Full of steamy love scenes galore? And Edward? And cake?

Ooooh, now that I mentioned it, can I come??? :]

Well, now that you mention it! It starting to appeal to me too...hmmmmm. :) Come along! LOL

Haha, bring Jackson along and I'll be sweet. He's my man ;]

The sad thing is that she isn't the one making decisions...I think Summit also wants it PG 13 because they just don't want to risk it and lose money.
I think it's a done deal whoever they book for a screenplay :(

Thank God all of you feel the same way I do. I hated Twilight, the movie, other then the fact that some of the casting was done well, the story was butchered, they left out a lot that should of been able to sqeeze into the movie. It was ridiculous. Catherine was not a great director for this project either and I'm glad they switched to Chris Weiss. And whoever said that having Edward throughout the whole movie is going to kill the reunion scene is soooooo right. I skipped a couple of chapters the first time I read New Moon just so I could get to the part where she finds Edward, the anticipation was agonizing. That's how the movie should go. And as far as Breaking Dawn, I have no idea how that movie isn't going to be like 4 hours long. So much happened in the book and to skip over any part is going to piss off a lot of people. As far as the "gore" of the movie, get real, there's no gore, she has a baby and she turns into a vampire. Irina gets burned alive, Bella and Edward hunt, so what. It's not like Stephanie described any of the sex scenes anyway. It's fictional, I don't think that this series is necessarily for children in the first place. Anyway, leave the story alone, put on screen what the people want to see, the Twilight series the way that it was written...

I agree, whole-heartedly with you on this BUT I see where MR was going as far as 'creative interpretation' and she missed the mark...I also see how CH thought it would be too hard to direct a "interesting' movie in the first person.....that's where MIDNIGHT SUN should have come in! Imagine if you will, how intense Twilight would have been if they would have opened up Edward's character?? His character has miles of depth, layers of conflict, self-loathing and everything else that makes him Edward! To see that interaction on the screen would have been amazing!!!! Imagine if they were to do that to a degree with NM and the last two books??? Show Edward's utter torment of being separated from Bella; his reaction to the phone call from Rosalie; his reaction to the misunderstanding about the funeral and his sudden determination to go to Italy! Just his body language and facial expressions... all of those scenes would make the movie on their own - in my opinion. SM doesn't have to finish Midnight Sun; she just needs to offer more depth for Edward the way it should have been written....leaving this task to MR would be a complete nightmare! Please tell me if I am off the mark!

i totally agree with 32 year old Twilight fan. she is right twilight sucked compared to the book. and yes i do think breaking dawn should be rated R. It will be if they follow the book.

Let's La Push Melissa Rosenberg off of a cliff. Who's with me?

I'm IN! LOL! LaPush her off! Excellent!!!!

LMAO!!! How funny the way you say it
Yeah, LA-PUSH baby, LA-PUSH her down de the cliff !! ;-)

Sounds like a grand idea to me.

OK, did she not read the previous article about the age range of Twilight fans? Keeping it PG13 doesn't exactly stay "true to the book" if you ask me. I don't personally think kids 13 and under should be reading Breaking Dawn - but that's just my opinion... come one now, let's be serious guys.

True - if kids aren't deemed old enough to watch this stuff in a movie, they shouldn't be old enough to read about it in a book. There's no ID required to buy the book of Breaking Dawn, despite its adult themes! And if they have read the book, there should be no problem with them watching certain scenes on screen.

The Isle Esme stuff is not graphic in the book so it does not have to be graphic on screen. The delivery scene on the other hand is quite gory to read, so why not film it as it's written. If you've read the book, you know what's coming so you can always close your eyes!

Yes! Exactly. Books are much more sensual and violent. Just look at Twilight, there was a lot of neck kissing, and Eclipse for gods sake and those two almost sex scenes....So they can take it. I hate this puritanism.

Though Isle Esme isn't graphic, there are stuff there that are suggestive, and there was that other time, that part is much more graphic than the ocean one.
And of course there's another scene after, when Bella is a vampire...when they go to that cottage....
God I'm pathetic...haha.
And the delivery can be toned down but not too much.

I just want to know what exactly is alowed with PG 13 rating.

oh girl...WE LOVE THE COTTAGE SCENE!!!! i so want it in the movie!!! like, everything happens in BD! and it is SO DAMN GOOD! lol

Haha good! Glad I'm not the only one!:D

Just do what Jacob did, have Bella buy the ticket and sneak in...*ZOINKS*

But Jacob already looked, like, 18. He was tall for his age.

thats ok if SHE doesnt want to see gore....I DO! shes not wrighting the scripts for herself, shes wrighting them for THE FANS. so give THE FANS what they want!!!!!

a petition to SM anyone?

A petition? ...ABSOLUTELY!!!
Where do I sign?

seriously, someone should start a petition to get rid of melissa rosenberg and hire someone who will give the rest of the series justice. someone who wants to PLEASE the fans and sticks to the books as much as possible, amirite?

EXACTLY. thank you! i do not think Stephanie Meyer will let this happen, she runs the entire thing, shes even said it her self "this is my baby, i want it done the correct way." so i dont think she will let this happen. Everything comes together beautifully in this book and if they sugar coat everything with rainbows and butterflies there is no point.

Bella hunting for the 1st time, her becoming a vampire, renesmee being boring, edward saving her, all these aspects NEED to be in this movie or it will be a complete failure. This bitch Rosenberg needs to be let go or the twilight series will take a MAJOR MAJOR fall.

Why would Renesmee be boring?

Oh wait, born. Sorry!!! :]

The honeymoon needs to be done right, although in the book the sex was only hinted at, one of my favourite lines "Well, there's an awful lot of headboard left" and to be honest I'm not sure I want to see Rob and Kristen really going at it. But the birth scene shouldn't be changed, I think it will make a very powerful scene, yes it might be too much for younger audience but so what!

I'd also bet that if they took a poll of the ages of people who read the books and watched the movies the average age would be a lot higher than this stupid woman seems to think she is writing for! And no I still haven't forgiven her for some of the changes she made to Twilight - but that's a whole other story.

hahaha yea so agree with u about the rob and kristen thing :P
but yea, they shouldnt cut out anything, and if they do, which they will bcuz theyr just retarded that way, i shall just wait another 20 yrs wen someone mite wanna make another version of the movies...(my dream as twilight was defienatley cut like a freakin thanksgiving turkey)

Okay, I'm definitely confused! "Take out the violence in Breaking Dawn." What?? There is WAAAYYY more violence in Eclispe! No one even gets in a fight in Breaking Dawn. I think they are more worried about the nudity. Don't bother filming Breaking Dawn if you can't shoot the sex scenes. This is the number ONE most important reason to film Breaking Dawn. For one, Stephenie Meyer doesn't even go into detail when they make love. I was SOOOOO counting on the movie for that!! It will be a real bummer if they rate it PG13. And not only that! Bye, bye birth scene! Don't expect to see ANY blood!

I think the most critical thing about making Breaking Dawn into a movie is making it into ONE movie!! There is NO WAY it can be made into ONE movie without having major stuff edited! I think they should make it into two movies like they are doing with the 7th book of Harry Potter. The first movie should end where Jacob imprints on Renesmee and hears Bella's heartbeat again. The second movie should start off Where Bella is transforming into a vampire. What do you think??

OR the movie will 2h30 long...

Twilight should have been 2h30m long...

ridiculous! just completely ridiculous! They can do love scenes and the birth scene without making it completely raunchy. but if they do it by a PG-13 standard it will totally suck.

If parents are allowing their children to READ breaking dawn at young ages then im pretty sure they will allow them to go SEE and R-rated movie. that makes no sense.

"no honey, read the whole book with all the adult stuff but, sorry you can't go see the movie".....ridiculous

funny but true.

Perhaps Oregano pitched a fit and does not want Robert having a sex scene with Kristen... he's what this is REALLY all about.... ;)

Bah, Rosenberg is obsessed with marketing this Saga to young teens when the books are really meant for people between 15-25...YOUNG ADULTS. (I'm 23 myself and really I think 15 is pushing it) That's why they are in the young adult section. Not the children's section. I really think watering down the epic scenes in Breaking Dawn or even Eclipse to cater to younger teens and tweens is a HUGE mistake. They need to stay true to the books, if parent's don't want their 12 year olds watching Renesmee being born in the slightly violent manner she was, or even the blackout sex scenes of Bella and Edward, then they shouldn't have even let them read the books in the first place. Once again tweens and young teenagers under 15 are not "young adults". Even if you think you are. These books are written with adult characters with adult themes.

Here! Here! I agree with you 100%! Come on Rosenberg - get it right!!! I guarantee that making BD rated R would not mess with ticket sales! It's only going to get better! Most parents would probably take their 15 year old girls to see the movie anyway!

The young adult section is for junior high and high schoolers. Of course most of my college friends have read the series because the only thing that puts these books in the young adult section is that the characters are in that age range. At the age of 21, I am embarassed to have to go to the young adult section to find these books.

"You can’t have a Twilight without Rob Pattinson.”

Some of you will want to kill me for this but it's okay....

I am really growing sick of statements like that. It isn't all about Rob. I do embrace the ghost images and hope it really contributes to the story. However, in my opinion, there are other cast members. They deserve just as much recognition. There really are other characters, just as prominent, in New Moon besides Edward. I know that Edward's presence is constant through the book and all of that mumbo jumbo. I just believe that you can't have Twilight without everyone else as well.

Okay feel better now lol. That being said I like Rob and find him to be a good actor. Yes I know the story is about Edward and Bella. I just get rather annoyed when people make it ONLY about them. (Yes I know they are the main characters)

Now about Melissa. I officially want to slap her silly. She obviously doesn't get it. She obviously doesn't understand the vast range of the viewing audience. I am not a PG range viewer. She mucked up the script, in my opinion, for Twilight. I am now worried for New Moon (despite my Chris love), Eclipse, and especially Breaking Dawn. I am thrilled to hear Breaking Dawn is headed to script write. There are just so many things that are vastly important that Melissa will need to keep.

That being said....watch her completely cut content from book 2 : Jacob's POV from the script. Then I will fursplode! *is in rare form today* If Edward isn't devirginized in BD, then I will slap that woman into oblivion.

I would rather sit through a "Pearl Harbor" or "Titanic" length movie, and get the story right.

Thank God the voice of sanity and reason is on line! I agree 110%!

LOL! Yes, yes. Here I be! Sane though? I would like to thank the sweet gentlemen in white jackets and that lovely little pill Dr. Cullen prescribed.

Seriously though wtf is that woman thinking?

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

i am w/u. in what world is she living? in disney?

IT NEEDS TO BE "R". Just for the honeymoon I don't want to see "contact" but i do want to see him bite the pillows and i wanna see how the headboard breaks! I do not want another fade out! i can imagine what happens but i wanna see it! lmao

Being an older fan, I am sick of hearing this is a saga directed to the tweens. Entertainment Tonight was the first media outlet that recognized that Twilight isn't just for the teenagers...THANK GOODNESS! Rosenburg needs to understand that us MOMS will take our tweens to see the R rated film if we chose too. And if parents don't want their teenagers to see the "R" rated film, they will still make a ton of money. (bet those teens will watch the BD DVD when it comes out). The analogy made earlier regarding Harry Potter was perfect... It gets darker as the saga continues and we need to keep true to SM's vision.

If i wanted to watch a "PG" movie, i'd go watch me some Hannah Montanna. But i don't, i want me some feathers, breaking headboards, and some Vampire-Drama. I want gore, I want the REAL pregnancy (I swear to god, if her pregnancy is anything but terrible, i'm going to flip.) I mean, Edward CHEWS that baby out of her for God's sake.
i don't want happy-go-lucky Bella, I want a miserable Jacob, until Rennesme of course, I want an agonized Edward, even though it's going to kill me. I want it to make sense.

If they cut it down into an hour and a half of a movie - annoyed and angry will be too very sorry understatements.
80% of the fans are over the age of 13. And Stephenie Meyer said that the books weren't supposed to be "young adult fiction"
If they didn't understand what went on in Breaking Dawn with the feathers, they're too young to watch the movie - end of story.
This movie should AT LEAST be 14A, and that's pushing it.

It will annoy the crap out me if the cut it down to an hour and a half. There are many movies that are 3 hours long and have major success (LOTR for one). I did like the Twilight movie, but there was just some much missing. I don't want too much to be missing from New Moon, Eclipse, or BD.

Yeah, definitely LOTR did amazing. Plus, I just reread the article and it said that Melissa Rosenberg wasn't signed on for Breaking Dawn. I hope that they'll pick someone a little more familiar with writing more adult scenes. They can't just skip things because they're inappropriate for younger viewers.

Oh no!
Sex between a loving, MARRIED, committed couple who waited until marriage to loose their virginity, not that!
Heaven forbid we have sex that includes good morals and teaches a good lesson.
I compare that to the sex in so many other movies,
I would rather my teenager see this example then most others.
Just me.
Rate it R, since this uptight country claims to be so strict on what kids see, and include the entire story.

And yes, the birth scene HAS to be in there, the whole birth scene, plus her "burning" while she changes, hunting for the first time, and the first time they make love as vampires.
And of course the entire scene with the Volturri. And all the friends that come to witness.

I too would rather my daughter see that type of then the ones they see on TV and in movies. Sometimes TV sex scenes are just as bad as movies.

You took the words out of my mouth! I agree totally and completely! Good post!

HERE HERE Nataniasmom!!!!!!!

I don't like this Melissa Rosenberg character. If she's trying to make a movie that teens can see, she needs to go direct the next High School Muscical. Keep Breaking Dawn in all it's sexy, bloody glory.

I agree 100%

ok first of all I agree in what she said about " You can’t have a Twilight without Rob Pattinson" lol but I am afraid!!! I mean Im scared that she take out the parts in which bella is being seductive with edward and all that stuff , I rlly want to see that on screen!!!!
but oh well....lets see what happens!

Toneing it down... I have a bad feeling about this..
I really hope Melissa doesn't ruin it...
I kind of wish that they'd get a new writer.

And that may just be the case -- a new writer.

Sigh...I think BD should be made for the adult fans. Stay true to the book, and if parents want to make the choice to take their kids then fine. On the other hand, both LOTR-ROTK and Star Wars Return of the Sith were both PG-13, and in them were some very intense scenes. Maybe they'll stretch it to the maximum of what PG-13 would allow. PG though? I would say its a pretty even split between the teen fans and adult fans. ALL of my friends are rabid fans, and we're all in our thirties, married, kids, etc. I understand Stephenie's position on PG-13, but she did write the book. The sex scenes were not too graphic, but the birth scene certainly was. Definitely want to see the honeymoon and cottage scenes. Sigh again...

I think what's she's saying is that Breaking Dawn will be tweaked for tweens just like Twilight was. Ok, I get it. Twinkies came out in obsessed droves throwing their parent's money at Twilight. That's the purpose of any movie. But, in BD we have Bella getting married, having sex, going through a violent pregnancy and hellishly being turned into a vampire. How do you tween-tweak that??? You would have to just omit everything and once again have a movie that's not true to the books which *everyone* loved. Tweens and teens are the only ones who are in love with the Twilight series! These script writers and producers need to quit butchering our books for sake of mass profit.

Duh, I meant "Tweens and teens are NOT the only ones in love with the Twilight series!"

i'm not EVEN a tween and i've read the whole series

They have been preaching about staying true to the book as much as possible throughout this whole movie process. Why are they now trying to pump the brakes on BD???? Stephanie wrote an R-rated book that didn't deter teenagers from reading loving it. It would not be a good idea I think to leave out the graphics. That's the beauty of the book in the first place. That's what kept me glued to the pages. It can still be tastefully done. They have sex, dammit! Bella practically dies giving birth, with bones breaking, horrible bruising, etc..... You can't cut that out! I'll sign the damn petitiion. THIS IS NOT A DISNEY SERIES FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! MAKE THE DAMN MOVIE RIGHT!!!

Heh, I've heard that BD won some award like "the best book for children" or something like that... doesn't sound like an R-rated to me.

we need to see everything! they can't tone done that much in breaking dawn without making to movie rubbish. besides wasn't twilight pg13? (in uk its 12, which means age 12 and above). so the thing i don't get is if the people watching twilight were 12 when it came out, they will be like 16/17 by the time breaking daawn comes out. so there is no need to tone down the scenes we need. they did that in twilgiht and althought the movie was good it could have been better.

I don't agree with this woman -_- bring on the gore and violence hehehe and some other rated R material *ahem* :P

might i add: Change the writer pleeeaaaassseeee lol she doesn't know how to let the scene's flow smoothly! most of twilight was BAM so sudden. no time for emotional build up.

they should make it nc17 and be creative with the wedding night scene ;)

someone please shut her up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is so stupid. the parts in the book that would need to be rated R have to be in the movie they are the biggest parts of breaking dawn. It's not fair to the older fans. They need to stay true to the book or it will not be worth watching.

I dont think there is anything wrong with having the rating be PG-13.
There are a lot of movies out there that have some pretty sexual scenes in them that have that rating. There are also a lot of movies that are pretty bloody and scary that also are rated PG-13. I think if they do it right, they should be able to have the sex and blood and scary scenes be just enough to keep it PG-13, but not too much to be rated R. We have to remember that these are Young Adult books and the major fan base is in the Y.A/PG-13 range.

the majority of the fan base isn't in the young adult range. it's all over the place.

That is probably true, but the ones who are making the most money for the movies are the ones who are going to see them 2,3 and 4 times or more and those are the tweens.

Can we start a petition to

A) Have all the story in BD the movie, even if they have to rate it R.

B) Fire Melissa Rosenberg if she can't or isn't willing to do it right.

What do you all think?

i like it :)

It's probably more Stephanie Meyer than Rosenberg. if SM wants it to be PG-13, than that's what the screenwriter has to agree to.

absolutely!! she the most boring person in the whole world if she does what she's planning to do with that movie!!

I vote yes to both!! =]

I think we should protest and write to Stephanie Meyer. Maybe if she were to get enough fan opinions and backing, she would be more inclined to stand up and demand that the movie be like the book and not "toned down" for the young viewers.

HERE we go......A great way to handle this would put in theatre release as PG-13. But release the DVD with the unrated or R version that the tweeners can grow into and those of us who can handle the real stuff will have at home. DVD sales would be THROUGH THE ROOF! and everyone is happy :)

BD the best children"'s book of the year??????? Is this some kind of joke or something?

This R-rating is sounding better and better.
Since a vast majority of us agree, we need the scenes the way they are written in the book, and that it should be made for us older fans (16 and up). Maybe I can finally get through a movie without all the little tweens screaming and talking through the movie. It took me 10 times before I finally made it through a screening without being interupted by some young kid saying "Robert, Robert, OMG it's Robert!". "Robert Pattinson is so cute, ect..."
I can imagine when I try to see New Moon what the little kids are gonna do. Over crying when Edward breaks up with Bella, I can see it now.
Make it R, keep the little ones out....at least my niece knows movie ettique...No talking, no screaming, and pee before the movie because I'm not getting up. :)

We have waited through 4 books for those two to consumate their wedding night and the honeymoon had better have a little raunch in it......I need to see more than feathers......and
after all , the kids read the same books that we read.....so, at least give us what was in the
books - and Breaking Dawn is a R rated book - not a PG 13. If the kids can read it.....they
can see it. I don't want the movie watered down - or toned down - or kiddiefied.....just to get
a PG 13 rating. We adults will buy more tickets anyway and the kids will see it on DVD.

OK first of all kids under 14 shudnt even read these book. It was made for young adults. So kids who are 10 shudnt read this. Omg Melissa Rosenberg, is worrying about the young kids. Ok this book for ppl between 15 above. When breaking dawn comes out in theaters these readers will be old enough. I dont like how Rosenberg is worry bout young kids. Its not even for them. I totally agree it should be rated R. If you dont like wat im saying. i dont care. Kids under 13 shudnt read breaking dawn. they dont need to know about sex. its not made for them. Rosenburg shudnt be the Screenwriter for breaking dawn becuz she worry bout the kids. i think someone else shud be the screenwriter. i feel like she goin to take out parts that shud be in the book!

Totally agree!!! Summit and SM need to keep these parts of breaking dawn: isle esme, when they go skinny dipping, the few sex scenes in isle esme(especially the broken headboard part and feathers lol), the birth of nessie and how edward has to rip her out and jacob having to jump at rosalie to make sure she doesnt drink bella's blood, and the other intimate scenes when bella becomes a vampire and it gets really intense... thats what attracted probably(just guessing lol) some of us to the book even more lol... especially me... and how SM wrote breaking dawn is really intense and it shouldnt be ruined.. this is her baby, so it needs to really be done right.. otherwise, theres gonna be thousands of angry fans lol

and rosenberg honestly needs to F-in realize that these books are meant for YOUNG ADULTS and not tweens... that means 15 and older!!!! so she needs to get some damn common sense and realize that we (the older and majority of Twilight saga fans) want the rated R version and to keep it like that.... thats how SM wrote it to be and Rosenberg has no damn right to change it to please little kids... that aint right.. and if she dont like, fire her a** asap cuz we need someone with the right attitude and is willing to do breaking dawn and hopefully eclipse the RIGHT way... these 2 books are probably important because it involves so much and i dont want them leveled down to disney appropriate.. F*** keeping it PG-13... Everyone wants RATED R!!! lol...

and even if it comes out rated R, the parents and older people are still gonna buy the tickets for the 17 and younger so it really doesnt matter.. and it'll be like another yr or so till breaking dawn comes out so they'll probably grow up by than lol..

oh, i signed the petition already! :)
Hell yeah! lol

All of the people that I know that are into the series are 20 years old or more. I dont think that us that are older should have to suffer lack of the movie just for the teeny boppers who obviously have the read the book already. Stay true to the books or else the movies will suck!!! Stephanie Meyer wrote them the way that they are dont F**K with it!!! I say if parents dont want their teenage girls to watch a movie with sex, a graffic birth, changing into a vampire and action. Then they should not have let them read the books. Our Imagination is much better than any movie could ever be and that says a lot!!

If mothers and fathers will let their 11 year olds read these books which BD does get a little graphic, why wouldn't they take them to the movie too? Come on.....don't ruin our movies to make it Sugar coated for the 11 year olds.....there are ALOT of 20 + somethings interested and obsessed just like me (26).

My daughter is 10 will be 11 in just about 3 weeks. She has read Twilight and New Moon and is starting Eclipse. I have voiced my opinion about her waiting until I KNOW that she understands the types the content of Breaking Dawn BEFORE she reads it but she is a smart girl with a good understanding of the "birds and the bees" already. If it is Rated R and she has had a chance to read the book and understand it then I will be taking her to see it.

Crazy-this website alone is saying the 65% of people on this site are over 18 and 1/3 are over 35 years old. Really....Maybe she needs to pay attention to who her audience really is and I think all of us over 18 can actually handle the script playing out like the book. I mean there wouldn't be any movies unless there was such a big book following-quick trying to please the minority, when the majority wants the movies to be in line with what we all feel in love with in the beginning-I think it's time for a new screenwriter, or for SM to stand up and voice her opinion-come on!!!

I completely agree. I even wonder how little girls can even read and "understand" these books. They were written for young adults and up...and in my opinion it is true that the audience of the books are not under 13 and should not be, they are older teens, twenty and thirty somethings who come to appreciate the books so it is only fitting that the movies stay as close to the books as possible.

PG age children?! Is she on crack...? if my child was in the PG age range I WOULD NOT let her read these books. Is she delusional? Breaking Dawn concentrates and focuses yes on sex, fighting, giving birth and blood. If they stick to PG-13 and do not stay true to the feel of the book, Ill be pissed. Bella matures so much over the course of the four books. And no, not everyone is in the PG age range....id like to even bet they were mostly far over the age of 13. Rate Breaking Dawn Rated R and give the fans what theyve been waiting for! And a side note- if it is true that Stephanie Meyer doesnt watch rated R movies? But yet she can write a book that is pretty graphic...thats dumb. R all the wayyyyy

Totally Agreed. As an older fan I will seriously be dissaponted if they let her have her way with this. Surely Stephanie wouldn't condone this? If Melissa does what she says she wants to, she will majorly be straying from the book.. creating something else entirely!

They shouldn't try to change B.D just because they want it to be pg-13. They are too worried about the younger kids, who shouldn't be watching it anyways.

We know that the realtionship is the most important part of the books, but htat doesn't mean she gets to skip some parts int hte book just because she wants a cerain rating! I read a bloody birth and I want to see that bloody birth! I doesn't have to be 10 minuetes long, maybe it's enough with 3 minutes. i thought that was one of the most powerful parts inthe book: Edward and Jacob uniting to save Bella. Edward turns Bella into a vammpire so that she can survive! If they don't show it, it will be very weak!
There's also sex in the book and plenty of sexual references (Especially on emmet's part.) Are they gonna cut those out too?

I just don't understandwhy sex scenes need to be R rated anyway.. I think they can ceep it, as much as we get to read in the book (wich actually isn't that much)
What's the big deal? I guess it's more strict with sex in movies in America.. In Europe, sex don't get R rated, if it isn't extreme or something. Just voilence. I mean, they're a married couple.. 13 years old can handle that..

I agree with you about the sex scenes. The tweens hear a lot worse in school and they a lot more in other movies.

I know!
It's not like ppl haven't seen more before.

I'm not sure who is more out of touch with the fans Summit or this woman or both. Clearly both are totally oblivious as to what the core of the Twilight fan base is because it sure as sh*t isn't the "PG" crowd!. I mean come on is she joking with that "our fans are in the PG age range" crap?! Rosenberg and Summit are both so out of touch otherwise they would have realized from the beginning that the majority of the fans are actually in their 20s and up. The only reason people assume the fans are mostly teens is because 1) its considered a "young adult" novel and 2) because they always show teens stalking sets, premieres, ect when in reality most of those teens aren't even there because they love Twilight they're there because of Rob and thats it. I wish they would take the time to come on these boards and pay attention long enough to see who their real core audience is. I mean if Twilight was rated PG-13 (which honestly I thought was unwarranted, it could have easily been PG), how are they going to make Breaking Dawn PG 13 without completely and utterly butchering the entire story? And if they do that I really wish that they would also at least film the scenes as they are in the book and put them on the DVD or something like that so we can see these scenes the way they were written and the way we love them. Breaking Dawn and Twilight are my favorites in the saga so I can't stand the thought that both of them will be ruined just because someone doesn't understand who the real fans are. Grrrrrrr this is just so infuriating!

I won't be a happy camper until Bella and Edward get jiggy with it! I want to see a little action please!! (And maybe a few Edward butt shots while there at it!) lol

LMAO! *get jiggy w/ it*

I don't think they should make it PG13 that would be ridiculous!! Honestly how are they going to stay true to the book if they make it so 13yr olds can watch it!
Firstly the honeymoon part ummm how is that going to be made so 13 yr old's can watch it...i mean for god's sake babies arent made from kissing it takes a lil more than that!! Also i love the part in the book where Emmett says "Rosalie & eye broke 2 house's" that whole part about how she is sick of him making fun of their sex life...its funny! Also the arm wrestle i mean they have to put that in the movie it is fun! but so what are they going to take that whole part out about how she finds out how much strength she has just because 13yr old's cant watch it!! GRRRR!
Harry Potter got heaps heaps darker as the books went on & still made alot of money!
Grrrrr damn Hollywood they think they know what they are doing but the number 1 thing they should be doing is listening to the fan's cause damnit they are who is going to be paying money to go see these movie's!!!

I think they need to find a new writer that for BD who will stay as true to the book as possible and not worry about if it rated PG-13 or rated R.

I hope Melissa Rosenberg sees these comments. It really boggles my mind that she even THINKS Breaking Dawn could do without the violence and sex scenes. If the readers are old enough to read the book, they're old enough to watch the movie...don't milk it down and try to make it "viewable" for 12 year olds. I loved the Twilight movie but I'll admit it was borderline lame. I hope Rosenberg took the advice of the fans and stopped making the screenplay so dumb!!!!!!

SIGN THE PETITION

http://www.petitiononline.com/BDmovie/petition....

signed and commented, thank you for making that :)

signed =)

Come on people there is only 44 signature's!! Yet the is almost close to 600 comments made about this. Surely we can get it to 1000 signature's.

I sent it to summit entertainment studios hopefully they write back :)

I'm 22 and a mum. Am i a PG? NO. ~~No offense to anyone who is 13 or younger.~~
They have to STAY true to the books otherwise whats the point?
The scene when Bella gives 'birth' shows how much darker its become, how theres alot more danger going on in this on. And im sorry but im not expecting a XXX rated film but the love scenes have to be there so theres no if and buts, they're going in.

Don't want to be offensive either, but if you didn't like Breaking Dawn, then don't see it when it's a movie. And yes, Stephanie is a Mormon, but that didn't stop her from writing it the way she did.
Really, the only part of the book that will make it an R rating is the gore. The "sex" scenes as we call it, are all tame. Stephanie wrote it that way. If the kids can read it without having nightmares, then they can see it. And most kids who are queasy about it, will cover their eyes. My niece covered hers when the previews where showing when Twilight came out, there was always that movie preview with the girl that was possessed by her dead twin. She closed her eyes and covered her ears. I nudged her when it was over.

I am a curious person, so I am going to see it no matter what:-D Maybe it would change my mind on the story. After all, I liked the Twilight movie alot more than the book itself... and yes, I've first read the book, than saw the movie. ...and sorry for my English - i am from Czech Republic and I am still learning.

LETS EVERYONE GO ON A STRIKE AND LET THIS MELISSA KNOW WHAT THE REAL FANS FROM THE TWILIGHT BOOKS WANT TO SEE …ON THE MOVIE …TO BE HONEST I THINK MORE OF THE FANS ARE OVER 17 I DON’T THINK
THE BOOK IS NOT FOR KIDS, UNDER 13... DUNNO 

SORRY MY ENGLISH.
RATED R..PLEASE

I am so sick of the media's claims that Twilight is mostly teen oriented. It has got an UNIVERSAL age appeal. How can they claim they stay true to the book if they would strip BD off with the more violent and shocking scenes? Sure they can be toned down somewhat..but to fit the stuff to the PG-13 ratings is crazy! The Honeymoon stuff...Renesmee...all that just gone poof or just "hinted" at? What is UP with this?

I hope they do change their minds...of course not every detail etc has to be shown, Breaking Dawn isn't a slasher book and it shouldn't be all about the sex, blood and gore, but to just TONE it down to fit it into a certain age group...that annoys me. There has to be some sort of middle ground here.

Also she got some idea of a guy to play Riley, if I am not mistaken Seth fought him in Eclipse. SO how come there is no thoughts about who would play Seth? Are they totally gonna ignore the most adorable one of the Wolves? Yes Seth is my fave werewolf lol. I love him, he' so cute in the books hehe.

my question is why does she want to tone things down? . I think for BD they should have an R rating and let the parents of these young children decide whats appropriate for them to watch or read. why try to fix whats not broken is my question?

Make it an R rating. Too much stuff they can't leave out or tame down. My niece will be 13 by that time. I saw R rated movies at that age, with her mother, so she can. She can close her eyes on the gruesome stuff. Besides, we've already had the sex talk with her. It's not like their going to show penetration for crying out load. Probably not even private parts, just alot of moaning. You see that on t.v. everyday.

What!!! BD needs to be rated R. How else is the movie supposed to be close to the book. Without isle esme and the birthing scene...its gonna be ruined. Im not happy with Melissa Rosenberg anywayz. Twilight was mashed together and left out important book details. I hope they get a new writer. someone who stays true tp the book. Why cant stephenie meyer write the screenplays?

I really don't see the point to the PG-13 rating...? ... I'm sure all the teens that read BD knew what was going on at Isle Esme... and their parents know to, if not from being a fan themselves, its from a friend who is... so the parent should just accompany their child (ren) to the movie when it hits theatres... (because they're going to just as anxious as their kids) =] ...so it shouldn't be watered down to something so "Disney"...

this movie absolutely needs to be rated R, why even bother making a movie if they are going to leave out MAJORITY of the book? her changing into a vampire and Renemsee being born is the MAIN FOCAL POINT of the book, so by "leaving that out" would be a complete and total disaster, not to mention a mockery of the book. Shame on Rosenberg for even considering this thought. I, along with MILLIONS of other ppl would be extremely disappointed in BD if this women has it her way.

By the time BD comes out in theaters, most of the fans will be old enough to watch a rated R movie. It would be stupid to change things in BD because every little detail is important.
I want to see them on Isle Esme and I want to see Renesmee being born. The right way (the way of the book.)
Bella hunting for the first time NEEDS to be in the movie.

Plus! Bella did not go through all the trouble of pregnancy for the birth to be made into something almost normal.
Stay true to the book you ignoramous!

I don't know everyone, but I am thinking the petition idea is sounding very good to me.

I bet we could get alot of fans to sign it.

Not many people here are disagreeing to a R rating, so i think we should petition away!
I'm 17, but I hate being grouped in with all the tweens that don't even understand the story.

I guess I must have read a completely different series of books than most of the people on this comment board. I never felt there was much gore or sex described in any of the books...you have to realize that some of that stuff was added by your own mind when imagining it as you read it. The fact is I don't want to see more gore..it has nothing to do with ratings, the book was NOT SCARY or GORE..yes I agree Bella and the others "grow up" however, that doesn't mean they have to trash them...she was always mature. They can have "love" scenes without raunchyness and they can have some of the violence without focusing on the gore.....FYI the movie and book are Stephanie Meyers and for everyone of you posting you ought to know better that a book and movie especially one as involved with the characters mind more than their actions must be condensed...the movie was toned down in some parts BY Stephanie Meyer if you have watched her interviews...this IS how SHE wanted it and that should be respected. I challenge anyone to find a portion of the books that go into complete detail on a sex or violent scene describing anything that sounds rated R in the book.

I so totally agree with you...
i never thought it was that gory or that sexual

These books & films are for everyone & every age...they need to consider that along with the ratings. There is nothing PG or even PG-13 about Breaking Dawn...and that is how Meyer wrote it. The films should be done as close to the books as possible, I really hope they get New Moon right...they just left SO MUCH out of Twilight! I even hear that Meyer suggested to tone down the kissing in Twilight, even though that's how she wrote it in the first place! That & the fact that they left out the MIND OVER MATTER that Edward experiences takes away from Bella & Edwards relationship development in a HUGE way! As a major fan of these books, I really hope that they make New Moon, Eclipse & Breaking Dawn much better... hopefully they will start to worry more about authenticity and less about the $$ they can be making!

Having it be PG-13 does not mean that it isn't going to show anything sexual or bloody. It just isn't going to be over the top. Think of Lord of the Rings--it is PG-13 and it has more than enough violence and gore. They will be able to portray the scenes just fine. And honestly--do you really think that Stephenie Meyer wants her movie to be R. She is Mormon and many of them do not watch rated R movies. I wouldn't be surprised if she has written in the contract that it cannot be rated R. I agree with someone above that said that picturing something in your mind and seeing it full force on the screen are 2 completely different things. Why not make the movie show just enough to not be R so that more people can enjoy it? Also, the point was already made, but it never describes sex scenes. It is all implied--so it won't be leaving the written page if they don't show Bella and Edward naked and in the throws of passion.

thank you...
i totally agree with this..im 19 and i would be able to see it...but ppl need to understand that you can keep the ONE scene of gore and still be PG-13 like i said there are gorrier movies out there and they make the PG-13 rating..and also like you said the sex is implied not descriptive...and i agree i do not think stephenie would want her movies to be rated R since she is mormon

What is Rosenberg been doing? Oh I know she has had her head in a hole for her life if she can't understand that there is more to the fans then screaming 13 year olds.
If she is so worried about what they may see does she even think about the daily lifes that we all read.
Come on the 10 O'Clock News had more violent things then that.
I really hope she pulls her head out of where ever she has it and starts to reread the book how can she say that she likes the books if she is going to do so much damage to the greatest saga ever wrote.

I am definitely a fan of staying true to the book. And some of the scenes in Breaking Dawn get very graphic. The sexual relationship between Edward and Bella and Renesme's birth are two very key parts in the story. There's no way not to make it rated R if you stay true to the book. BUT...Stephenie Meyer doesn't watch rated R films. So how can you make HER book into a movie that she won't want to see? That would be wrong because after all, she is just as much a fan as the rest of us. I think that it can still be a great film without every part and those parts that don't meet the rating can be hinted to the audience.

OKAAAAYY yeaaaah melissa you need to keep breaking dawn the way it was in the book !!! if you don't , oh boy all hell will release on you! so many fans are counting on this movie to be exactly like the book and if you let them down, nobody willl everr everr everr ever ever ever ever ever ever watchh what you wrote ! nobody ! you'll pay MR! EDWARD NAKED.. i can imagine it already *sighs* YUM YUM YUM !!! =]=]=]=]

Ok everyone, to help spread the news about the petition I've created a group on facebook. If you search for the following on fb you should be able to find it:

"Petition to make "Breaking Dawn" Rated R"

Forward it to as many people as possible, we've got to get the word out there! There's only 37 signatures on the petition at the moment, Summit won't take any notice of us with such low numbers. PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION!!!!

OK .. So..I've read some of the more lengthly comments defining ratings.. That's all fine; however, it still does not give the full effect of the books as they were written.. Some of the comments states how the ratings are listed... I think at this point, anyone who is opposed to the PG13 rating has done their research as well. To the people that have thought it better to teach us all about ratings.. I urge you to find 10 films with a PG13 written the same (or close) to our beloved books. You won't... Trust me... I've done my research!! We need a pro-active approach to this before the script is written.. Not a politician willing to try to sell us something that really doesn't live up to its potential. Sorry if this sounds harsh but at this point, I don't need someone trying to question my intelligence and give me facts that are readily available to all.. One would think that if we spent as much time trying to address our concerns with the proper channels that we would have a greater chance of success!

Whooooooaaaaa. sorry if it sounded condescending- I had to go looking for the info to find out what constituted a pg13 as opposed to an r rating myself to understand it & what I was trying to do was save others the trouble. I love the books too, and would be hard-pressed to think of many books I loved more. I want the books brought to "film life" in all their original glory with NOTHING left out. Unfortunately I have read time & time again that SM doesn't want the ratings for the films to be beyond pg13 regardless of how the books were written- and according to many sources it was even part of the licensing agreement. Trying to focus on what good CAN be done within the limits that have been set. Not trying to teach- tryin to save people time & effort looking Yikes! Im gonna go ahead & walk away from this message board & leave it to you.

CAN WE GET A NEW SCREEN WRITER PUHLEASE????? Fire this wench before she fucks up Breaking Dawn!!!

DUDE, is she serious.
i mean come on now.



WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION.

she needs to put that bedroom scene in their, that's all she's been wanting..
and what WE want from edward too ;]

I dont even think its a big deal if BD is rated R because most of the fans are over 17 anyways. I want them to stay on true with the book and that cannot happen at all if they stick with a PG 13 rating. I hope they listen to the fans and don't mess up BD.

Here is what the motion picture association says about rate R movies

R - Restricted

Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.

May contain very strong language or strong sexual emphasis, strong explicit nudity, strong violence and gore, or strong drug content.

If anyone under the age of 17 wants to see BD if it is rated R then they will just have someone buy them a ticket just like Jacob did in NM.

oh come on. breaking dawn has to be R. or it could be PG13 with gore in it.
I wanna see Edward chewing Bellas stomach to get to BB Nessie!!!!
Oh and hot Isle Esme bed headboard breaking love making. lol.

It's really funny that she's like ...“Our fans are in the PG age range, and I don’t feel a big necessity to see violence, and to see gore,” Rosenberg said. “I don’t need to see that. This whole series is more about their relationship. It’s not about the gore. I mean, there are some scary and special elements to it, but the series is really about relationships and coming of age and owning one’s power.”


Why did she totally lose the concept of the LOVE STORY in TWILIGHT then?

I wish someone could get this thread to her.

I'm just happy that there will be a possibility in making Breaking Dawn. This made my day!:)

I have a fabulous Idea...why not make an unrated version for us Adults on the DVD when it comes out....HMMM that was a hard one to figure out. I know we'd all have to wait to see the good version til it came out on DVD but come on....they need to STOP saying that the main audience for these films are tweens....it's just not true!

They DO need to stop saying that these films and books are for tweens...it is just annoying.

Now there's an original idea! :) nice thought!

Some teen are having sex early and already know what sex is, so why keep it pg-13 and some of the teens have had or seen sex before, and as far the the bloody birth they have seen killing movies with more action and blood, so this movies need to be rated r, because it will be a waste of a movie if its pg 13

not to mention the dead bodies and crime on the news at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, or Criminal Minds, or Law and Order or any number of television shows.

Woaaa there's like a zillion comments already... I knew it!! Hmmm Melissa didn't make me ecstatically happy in Twilight since she didn't keep a lot of essential stuff in the movie and I'm ok since they had a fairly small budget, but c'mon... they've got tonz of money now and there's no real reason to make the movies PG-13.... hello!!! Those who are reading it, I'm pretty sure they can freaken imagine it... I'm sure they won't be upset to actually see it come to life, right? I understand that there are some young-ins out there that shouldn't be reading the last book but to each its own.... that's up to the parents.... oh gosh... I'm praying that if BD does happen, and Melissa is the screenwriter, she wont mess it ALL up for me... that was my second favorite book of the saga... I will be pretty pisst off =[

Breaking Dawn was my second favorite too! Twilight is my favorite. And yes i agree with you. There are many many details in BD that can not and should not be ruined.

I'M 14 YEARS OLD AND I'M LIKE THE BIGGEST FAN OF THE TWILIGHT SERIES AND I KNOW THAT FOR ONE I AGREE WITH EVERYONE. TWILIGHT WAS OKAY, BUT THE SCREENWRITER DIDN'T DO SUCH A GOOD JOB. B.D. NEEDS TO BE BETTER S.M. SHOULDN'T ALLOW THIS SHE SHOULD WRITE THE SCRIPT. WHAT I THINK MOST FANS WANT TO SEE IS BROKEN HEADBOARDS, FEATHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!, EDWARD HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, AND OF COURSE THE COTTAGE THAT'S A MOST!!!!! IF NOT WE SHOULD TAKE THIS UP TO S.M. WHO'S WITH ME.

Im for BD being rated R all the way.

Seriously we need to start a petition and get this lady out of here ASAP. For BD to be a PG-13 movie she'd have to cut out everything from Isle Esme up to Bella's first hunt and all the other hunting scenes.

there is one, here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.c...

Thanks!

cant wait for new moon and i hope breaking dawn will become a movie :d

i dont think that BD should be R or PG-13, why cant they make it like 14A or something... i mean reallly, from whats in the book as gory as they could try to make it, it wouldn't even be that long it would only be gory then it'd all be over according to the book it was fast...

Yea I have never been a fan of the American movie ratings.
Or any of the censorship.
I think they are hyper-critical of some things and way to lax on others.

I personally am more appalled that anyone of any age can see dead bodies on the 4 o'clock news but if someones cleavage is showing or there is a butt-crack the whole country falls apart,
it's retarded.

I'm 18, and I'm not taking any of this PG13 crap.
Twilight was ruined. Hopefully New Moon will turn out great.

But BD can not be stuffed up. We have been waiting for Bella to be turned into a vampire. We have been waiting for this marriage and we've been waiting for Edward and Bella to finally be intimate with each other.

I won't let one woman ruin it.

How can Breaking Dawn be a PG-13 movie? I don't ever seeing that being possible. The birth scene is WAY BEYOND PG-13, but we need that. How can they NOT show that in the movie?! I'll be very disappointed if Breaking Dawn was going to be a PG-13 movie. It would be very much of a movie for me.

I know what you mean, plus, Breaking Dawn was taken away from some school libraries and stuff like that, if the book was taken off the shelves from schools, they can't make the movie PG13, that doesn't make sense, does it? I mean, the book contains partial, if not more, nudity. THEY HAVE SEX. they can't make it PG.

I think that if we can handle reading Breaking Dawn. It's obvious that we can handle watching it in the big screen. Does who can't or aren't allowed to watch Breaking Dawn should just have to wait.

What the hell? PG-13?
Our minds saw the blood and gore when reading, so how is seeing it on a screen any worse?
They better not leave out the moonlit swim or the feathers and bruises.
It won't be the same story if they leave those things out.

Newflash, in New Zealand, basically all the fans are 16-17+

And if stupid Melissa goes on to do Breaking Dawn, and makes it some piece of Pg-13 crap, I will seriously kick some behind.

Who cares if Stephenies mormon, she wrote it, so she would also have had 'those' images in her head.

If you can handle reading it, then you can handle it on screen.
Melissa needs a seriously slapping.

What really bothers me is that this sereies is one of the few that has become a phenom. for young people that actually approaches sex and marriage responsibly. The first three books define such an intimate, true love relationship between Edward and Bella. While the specific scenario (the whole vampire thing) is not reality. The ability to love another to that extent, the way they do each other, is possible. I think that all of the important parts of the B/D, the sex, lust, violent birth, can all be done tastefully to where even if they had to rate the movie R, it wouldn't be an issue for parents to accompany those who couldn't get in with out one. I'm not 14 or even 19, but lets give younger people some credit, there wasn't any material in this book that made purchasing it, if you were underaged, impossible. So are we supposed to assume its okay to read about the events in B/D for the younger crowd, but not to see them materialized on screen??? OBSURD!!! Why not try to make a movie based on book that sold millions, instead of leaving out, rewriting, or manipulating the storyline?? If she cant't do it, I'm sure at this point there would be several that would jump at the chance to.

Ugh, I hope not because breaking dawn is the last book to the series they need to make it exactly like the book... maybe they should come out with a theatre one and an uncut verison because i personally want to see the whole Edward naked bit and the c-section vampire thing will be AWESOME!!!!!!!! lets start a petition on this one guys because if they make it pg13 so many people will be so disapointed and won't get the rating it deserves if it was rated R

If they are old enoughh to read the "graphic" scenes, then they are old enough to see them.. doesnt mean there has to be nudity..duh. but do they edit the books? no... so y edit the movie

Honestly, I hated the Twilight script. It was so cheesy and the dialogue between Edward and Bella came off as silly at times instead of serious and intense like it should have been.

I'm kind of dissapointed they didn't get a new writer for New Moon but hopefully Chris Weitz will be descerning enough to look over the script and get rid of anything that is questionable.

HOPEFULLY.

I read somewhere there were a couple of rewrites for New Moon before they started filming (per chris). Some of the problem with Twilight was that CH had MR go back and do rewrites and she improvised a lot. We'll see if Chris has better taste in dialogue than CH did.

i don't care if they name the rating freaking Z, all that matters is that everything is followed in the book.

Stephenie meyer didn't write graphic sex and fighting scenes but they are still there in their own ways. so she shouldn't care if it's R or not, as long as it follows what the book is like. there are ways to make it sexual without it looking like porn.

she shouldn't tone anything down, that's ridiculous.

I think making BD a pg-13 movie is a bad idea. If they want to stay as true to the book as they say they do, then it needs to be a rated R movie. As far as the tween factor, if the parents don't want their child to see BD because it might be a rated R movie, Then my suggestion is watch the movie first and then decide if your child should see it. I honestly do not think that if they keep true to the book it will matter if it is rated R or not. People are going to see this movie. I believe that they will lose money if they dumb it down. Not all Twilight fans are teenagers. I know I am not.

I hope they don't tone it down too much. I don't think the rating is really going to stop the PG crowd from seeing the movie no matter what the rating is (I know that never stopped me when I was a tween). As long as they stay true to the book (although i wouldn't mind them showing more of the honeymoon scene, lol) then it should be fine.

I'm with you all on this, if they don't keep the film true to the book then it will be flipping ridiculous!!! I'm 24 and these books are definitely written for young adults, not teeny-boppers. I agree that if their parents let them read the books, then they should have no problems if the movie stays true to them. If they cut out any of the sex or blood and violence, they'll destroy everyone's dreams for the film. They build it up through the first three books and then what, nothing happens in BD, just black out's and little glimpes - completely pointless!!!! :o(

Come on somebody, start a petition and I'll sign it! I don't know how to do it but if you go to http://www.petitiononline.com/ you should be able to start one from there.

personally i think that they should absolutely make breaking dawn as it is ment to be... cruel change for bella, romance as it should be and they have to have bella as scary as she is ment to be as a vampire. thye cannot make it peacht clean pg-13 it WILL ruin the book. the birth scene has to be gruwsome but not over the top gore. i dont wanna see braking dawn in big screen if they can't do it right because everyone thinks that twilight is made for teens (sorry but i am older and i do love the books... if you can read it you can watch it...)

Well by the time the characters are in BD they are adults - graduated, married, co-habitating adults. So perhaps it isn't so wrong to have the movie goers be adults... It's not going to be another movie about teenagers in high school with silly crushes.

Gosh she's annoying
I want rated R I better see some blood in this movie just like it suppose to be

Im with ya Nataniasmom!

OMG!!! They can't cut out the best part of the book... They don't have to show "the" sexual part, like, really really show it... But they can't cut it out!!!

I dont know call me crazy but there was some tenderness between all 3 main characters in the part when there tearing her apart to take out the baby in a sad kind of way. You could just see Edward agin in twilight when he says "Im going to make it go away Bella, Im going to make it go away" .

I'm sooo with ya Nataniasmom!! =p

Ok, NMM.org since this is such a huge place where so many fans gather.

Do you have the power to create a petition on here for us to click agree or disagree, or add our names to or something?
Then send it along to Summit and Stephenie Meyers, even just their websites?

I think it is clear how the majority of the fans would vote,

"do the movie right, get the whole story in there, regardless of what you have to do."

you cant get rid of those parts they are the best and add the most action just leave them in!

what?? she wants to change BD into a HANNA MONTANA movie?? WTH!!!! animations are rated PG now!!! FIRE HER OR SOMETHING like that

This is exactly what I said before.. saying how were they going to have all the parts from the book in in another post.. cos they wouldnt put in the graphic parts or whatever Melissa calls them, cos of the age of the audience.. and everyone on here turned on me!

PETITION!!!! seriously!

Channing Tatum? oh hell to the no!
oh and btw please Summit fire Melissa,get someone better...thank you

I agree with doing the petiton becasue it seems like from all the comments we are in agreement keep it true to the book and if that means rated "R" then so be it!!!!

I thought rosenburg did a horrible job with the script for Twilight. It all seemed too rushed for me. The meadow seen was so needed. All that dialoge was so key to their relationship and to them falling in love. she total hacked the book to peices. SM really needs to fight for the Integrity of her novels. All of the highbrow people at Summit are just interested in pandering to the teen market to make money. SM I'm sure did not write these books with the soul intention of making money. SHOW SOME SOUL SUMMIT!!!!!

P.S. About the length of these movies. IF WE CAN SIT THROUGH 3 LONGER THEN NESSARY HOBIT MOVIES (AKA LORD OF THE RINGS) THEN DO THE SAME FOR THESE BOOKS.

CHANNING TATUM!!
Save us all!! He better not b in it... omg that wud actually b awful!!

if fans are old enough to read the books... then the majority are old enough to see the films.. if not... they can jst wait til its on dvd haha...

I totally agree with alot of u or everyone on this! There are soooo many MAJOR parts to the book that can't be left out it just wouldn't be the same. I've said before so what if it has to be rated R .....She need to make the movie like the book and she also needs to leave it up to the parents to decide whether or not to let there kids watch it! She needs to stop being worried about the younger audience........ Us older ones is who she does need to worry about and the damage that could be done to her by us by not makin the movie THE RIGHT WAY!!! I understand if it has to be altered a little and i mean very little but come on stop trying to tone down everything !! Just make it rated R and be done with it!!!!

If someone does a petition i'll be ready to be part of it....I think we need to do something to get the point across to her before she makes a MAJOR mistake!!!

loads of scenes in the book that important are grafic she will just have to put up with it and put them in the screenplay otherwise it is going to be a not as good as it should be and no one(especially people who havent read the book) will get what is going on. plus the book is aimed at young adult meaning over at least 14 so it is just rubbish keeping it PG-13

the birth scene is an important part of the book!!!

If they can have passion on TV for everyone to see they can have it in the movie. Use sheets like they do on TV. The fan base is all over the place, she doesn't know what she is talking about. She can't write a good kissing scene, I want to see the pregnancy, I have seen PG-13 movies and they have been graphic. It all depends on how she writes it. They could show us everything, the birth without showing Edward ripping it out, they could show us fear and the pain they all feel. They could show us the passion like I said use sheets like they do on T.V.

isn't that true! You see more on General Hospital and All My Children than what Ms. Rosenberg is talking about! You have to stay true to the book and it can be done and done well!!!

what about shows like Nip/Tuck and Rescue Me on FX? those actually show sex scenes- I still can't believe they air that on national TV. If I had kids, I'd much rather them watch Breaking Dawn in it's fullest extent, rather than stumble upon FX's dirty shows.

ok seriously? who cares about the rating? YOURE SUPPOSED TO STAY TRUE TO THE BOOK. You're not supposed to "tone it down". I'm sure if these girls are fans...theyve read the book and know the violence involved. I personally have been excited about the later books because i WANT to see the action. I was disapponted in the first movie a bit because of it being so teeny bopper. ITS ANNOYING. If cutting out the violence of the book is the case, then she shouldn't be writing the script. point blank. EVERYTHING in the book is tied to their romance. even the violence. this is why we fall in love with the characters!

"Hmmmm, yes, no, ticket to the other side," come on Ms. Rosenberg, get with the times! You are missing the boat here! Don't leave out the core of the book --- and I think you are behind times with the new Phenomenon, it ain't just the tweens that are obsessed with Twilight anymore!!!!!! Wake up and do the book justice!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok they need to get a new writer for BD. I really was hoping it would be rated R. It could be so much more. I new SM wouldn't let that happen though, Well at least there doing a BD so ill have to be happy with that!

How are they going to do Isle Esme with a PG-13 rating let alone the delivery scene?

there probably won't be a delivery scene .. you friggin wait ..

There are certain scenes that must be in Breaking Dawn, the delivery is one of them, and practically everything that happens on Isle Esme. I want to see Bella and Edward getting into some "action". If not, heads.will.role!!! I had to use my imagination in the book, I'm not bringing my imagination to the movies (well, except to imagine that its and Rob and me). I want action, action, ACTION!!!!

YOU HEAR ME SUMMIT!!!!!

ACTION DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or we will unite as one, and bring down Summit .. and take Melissa Rosenberg .... cliff diving!! mwah ha ha ha

I'm going with deedee's . . . . taking them limb by limb if they screw up the rest of these movies.

Don't mess with the Cougars.

That cliff diving experience won't have such a happy ending

I agree!
There is something minor that I really want to be in the movie, and it's mainly just for my own pleasure, but I want Emmett to say all of his little leading jokes in front of Charlie! That would definately make me happy! =D haha

Yes, all that banter between Bella and Emmit! Leading right up to the arm wrestling! :) I loved when she was shredding the boulder apart, and turned around to Jacob & Edward stiffling laughter at her.

That whole scene is cute!
Then when Renesme tries to break the rock with her fingers but she can't do it.
I love Edward in that scene too! Oh heck, I love Edward through that whole book! He's beyond perfect!
*heart throbs*

I better see some action!!! It's what I've been waiting for, if they don't I'm going to have to provide that action with Felix! LMAO

LOL. I thaught you already started that!

Tweter, send deedee her blow-up Felix. Stat! LOL

Hey no blow up felix for me, I like to taste off beef not processed crap! LMAO

OMG! You are biting him! Stop! He will not look too good with bite marks all over him, he has a movie to film, then again, he will be in a cloak. Whatever works for you, you go girl! LMAO

your action with Felix will sure take the movie rating to another level...!

I don't think there is a rating for that type off action LMAO

I'm getting the hose out for you...you need to cool down!!

They'll just call it DEEDEE.

if they keep it down to pg-13 they will never get the stuff in the giving birth bit right, its meant to be edward battleing against time to save bella. without the blood it will be really hard to bring that across

OKAY yeah i agree..PG-13 Is sufficient.. But they cant take out the delivery scene, or the scene where bells gets covered in feathers..lol..Or the naked scene on the beach, in the water, in the moonlight!!! NO no no...They cant..And how are they gonna take out one of the most critical scenes in Eclipse..The fight is like the major point in the book!!! I want some gore, and I want some LOVE!!! LMAO!!! :)

All I know is, Breaking Dawn is my favorite of the books.
I don't care what they rate it, I think the rating system in this country is off anyway.
Just stay true to the book.

The relationship is the main focus yes, but what Bella goes through to give life to her and Edwards Bella is HUGELY important to.

We need to see her sick and wasting away, we need to have that feeling of "Why is she doing this to herself!?" "she is crazy!" "she is going to die, why is she doing this to Edward?" "Why doesn't someone do something, anything!"

And then we need to think that she really is going to die when she has to have the baby cut out, we need to see Rose loose it and get thrown out of the room by Alice and Jake, we need to see Edward and his calm and in control facade as he carefully does what needs to be done to bring the baby out.

We need all of that, and as far as the honeymoon, Stephenie doesn't graphically describe anything anyway. You can show all of that with out showing nudity or actual sex.

They need to make BD rated R. It wont be the same if its pg-13. Twilight saga is for young adults anywayz. If tweens have read the books then whats wrong with putting the gore in the film? MR is a bad writer anywayz. She trashed twilight. It was missing major points. I hope nm and eclipse are better. Why cant stephenie write the scripts?

Amen! The whole thing came from Stephenie's meadow dream and she butchered that IMO!

I always thought that scene was completely screwed up too. The one scene that should have been absolutely perfect, and she ruined it for me.

I hope summit reads the blogs and comments, I personally think they should get a new screen writer for BD. JMO...

I will be legal then so i want all the goriness and other R-rated bits of the book. I totally loved it! But when it comes to the writer and her obsession with changes (grr!), Stephanie Meyer CAN'T let her do that. But who knows. They might have fired her by then. Fingers (and everything else) crossed.

I want to see Kristen Stewart spewing blood please.

LMFAO. thats awesome i feel the same way

And Rose getting ready to attack her . . . GAH! That scene is just awesome!

I think that breaking dawn should be rated R...if these young kids can read the book then their parents can take them to see it but im in my 20's and i dont think its fair to the older fans to make it pg 13! We need to see the honey moon scenes!!! ;) They should stay true to the book and make it rated R!!!!

They so have to keep in Isle Esme and the birth scene as it is in the book I agree with "bean" if kids can read the book then they can see it in a movie. maybe they do need a new screenwriter I will be so disapointed if Breaking Dawn is toned down!!!

Quite pissed at this lady! what you mean keep it a PG-13 movie??? than dont bother making BD!!!!
I wonder what Stephenie has to say about that! BD CANNOT be a PG-13 movie! Or else it wont stay true to the book. Wat a dissapointment!

I wonder if that is why they haven't put the go ahead on the movie for sure. I am sure Stephenie knows how important the birth scene is, if they feel that they have to remove too much of it, I wonder what will happen? And not to be too gross, but I've had 4 kids, childbirth is bloody lol

Stephine is a Mormon she doesn't believe in watching rated R movies, hence... we are not looking good for a rated R. :-(

Doesnt believe in watching R movies??? but sure hell wrote a rated "R" book! whats the diference putting it on film than on paper????

heya im from the UK and i completely agree with all of you but i was just wondering what age is rated R cause its different over here

17+

thank you and yay im old enough so lets have some gore :)

I'm guessing PG-13 is maybe a 12a? Because thats what Twilight was rated over here.
The R rating is probably a 15.

Here are the definitions from http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp warning, it is long:)

A PG-13 rating is a sterner warning by the Rating Board to parents to determine whether their children under age 13 should view the motion picture, as some material might not be suited for them. A PG-13 motion picture may go beyond the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, adult activities or other elements, but does not reach the restricted R category. The theme of the motion picture by itself will not result in a rating greater than PG-13, although depictions of activities related to a mature theme may result in a restricted rating for the motion picture. Any drug use will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented. There may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence. A motion picture’s single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, initially requires at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive requires an R rating, as must even one of those words used in a sexual context. The Rating Board nevertheless may rate such a motion picture PG-13 if, based on a special vote by a two-thirds majority, the Raters feel that most American parents would believe that a PG-13 rating is appropriate because of the context or manner in which the words are used or because the use of those words in the motion picture is inconspicuous.

An R-rated motion picture, in the view of the Rating Board, contains some adult material. An R-rated motion picture may include adult themes, adult activity, hard language, intense or persistent violence, sexually-oriented nudity, drug abuse or other elements, so that parents are counseled to take this rating very seriously. Children under 17 are not allowed to attend R-rated motion pictures unaccompanied by a parent or adult guardian. Parents are strongly urged to find out more about R-rated motion pictures in determining their suitability for their children. Generally, it is not appropriate for parents to bring their young children with them to R-rated motion pictures.

An NC-17 rated motion picture is one that, in the view of the Rating Board, most parents would consider patently too adult for their children 17 and under. No children will be admitted. NC-17 does not mean “obscene” or “pornographic” in the common or legal meaning of those words, and should not be construed as a negative judgment in any sense. The rating simply signals that the content is appropriate only for an adult audience. An NC-17 rating can be based on violence, sex, aberrational behavior, drug abuse or any other element that most parents would consider too strong and therefore off-limits for viewing by their children.

Certainly not PG-13!! WHAT IS SHE THINKING!
BD is the most mature of all four books. If they want to make it PG-13, there's gonna be a huge lack of important scenes. I agree with all of those who said something like: "If they were mature enough to read, they're mature enough to see it." How true !
One of the things that made us like Twilight even before BD, was the sexual attraction between Edward and Bella. We cannot deny it. It's all about the " what will happen if..."
Breaking Down goes further into this attraction and it's essential to the story plot. PG-13 = No Isle Esmee, no feathers, nothing happening in Bella's new house isolated in the forest... What's left?

I'm hoping that Summit would listen to the fans, Make it Rated R.

The fan base has grown a lot since Twilight came out, no its not just for 12 year olds anymore. As the books mature, so should their movies.

Could she please pull her head out of her arse for a minute . . . GAH! I can't believe this is the woman they (summit) have entrusted to write the screenplay for our much loved Saga . . . . I had hope she would improve after all the uproar over Twilight but this makes me scared. I mean, Eclipse and BD are more mature . . . they are a bit scary . . . they do have a bit of gore. And you can't just freaking cut bits and pieces out in hopes of making a good film. I swear . . . if she screws this up . . . it will be on like donkey kong.

It will be on like donkey kong! Hahahah that is hilarious!

FIRST!! And I'm never first yay!!

as long as she get Isle Esme right I ain't complaining! Lol

You know what? she'll totally screw up Isle Esme. I doubt we'll even see feathers..

Think of all the things she left out in Twilight? You know what peeves me off the most .. the fainting part .. where Bella fainted in Bio class? Then Edward basically takes her from Mike . LOL .. I was soo upset they left that out : ( .. ohh .. kk .. not trying to get anything going her e.. I think I'll end up seeing posts of ppl mad over things that were left out as well lol

I know the fainting scene was really needed...its the start of it all really and I can't believe she cut that out.

Isle Esme has to just like the book else I will be so disappointed and the yes the birth scene needs to be right with the blood everywhere and edward changing her...If they miss out these bits I think they know that they will be annoying a lot of the fans too.

IF they are MATURE enough to read it .. then they are MATURE enough to watch it.

True true.

So true but imagination and actually providing the visuals is a different thing. I say two version one for the kiddies and one for the cougars! lol

I totally agree here. We've all read the books. We know what happens. Even the young girls know they got married, had sex and have a bloody baby. No, they don't need to show all the gore-but please don't leave out some of the MOST important scenes from the books. It will ruin them.

What they failed to realize in the first movie was that there were going to be angry fans. I think that they realize now that there are fans who will protest if it's not exactly right!

haha I'm not going to start an angry rant. But that biology blood testing scene was definately a scene that I was angry that they didn't put in. It was one of my favorite parts. =( Poor Mikey! but GO EDWARD!! =D

yep!! I just can't believe she left that out!! I lost all confidence in that woman after watching Twilight. UGH

most definately! We need to have a Twilight Re-do! haha better director and better screenplay! lol

MTE.

When I heard Chris Weitz was doing New Moon all I could think of was that I wish he would go back and remake Twilight!

That was one of my favorite parts of the book too:) I was bummed it was left out, I really would have liked to see a little more build up before they declared their love personally. I guess I will have to wait until I see New Moon and see if she gets it right this time.

Yeah I felt like there was no love and compassion in the movie...Everyone said they had chemistry but I saw nothing like what I read in the book!

but that's a whole different topic that I could go on about for days! So I'll just quit while I'm ahead! haha

i know when i saw the film i was compltely gutted i just kept waiting for the fainting but it never happened was one of my favourite bits from twilight and she just cut it out

actually I think that we MAY see the feathers... probably the whole vision will be covered with them, so the minors won't be depraved by the sight :(

Exactly!

Oh dear! I was so caught up in Felix land that I missed this post, and now like 270+ comments! LMAO.

I'm not surprised. I know Felix is your everything and nothing can deviate your attention away from him. It's quite understandable. LOL

yEAH EXACTLY!!! OH and the delivery scene..I mean isnt that sorta important!! We have to see, Edward turn Bella!!!

And how Jacob was there with Edward, trying to save her.... the two of them working with everything they had to save her.

Exactly!!!!!! Jacob is a major part of this too!!!

But she wont' if it's rated PG-13. Give me something rated R dang it!!! I'm old enough!

LOL!!!! YAY!!!!!

Its the small things in life that make us happy!!!

lol funny. I THINK IT SHOULD BE 'MA15+' i think tha woul work?? :o)
Lizzie

I don't know, that's why I think it could be so much more. They need to realize the younger fans will be old enough by the time BD comes out to see it. There are a lot of older fans also now.

That's a good point - the Harry Potter fans have grown up with the films/ characters, so they get progressivley darker each time. Why can't they do the same for the Twilight saga?

I understand that a lot of the audience is under 13, but a lot of them are older, too. I dunno, I hope they can keep it PG 13 while still keeping the storyline...this is weird. they need the delivery scene, that is essential. Honestly, I'm not sure what to think about this. I just want to see how New Moon turns out before I start worrying about Breaking Dawn.

I'm from Ireland so can someone please explain the limits of a PG13 and R? We have PG (parental guidance); 12A (under 12s can watch with an adult); 15A (under 15s can watch with an adult; 16 (over 16s) and 18 (over 18s). How would PG13 & R compare with these?

For example, The Dark Knight was a 15A so kids could watch it with an adult - but that has some very graphic violence and gore....

pg 13 is basicaly the same as 12a but 13 instead of 12

r = is i think 18 but not sure

R is over 17 and up.

WOO!!! ill be able to watch it :D!! i was having difficulty with the PG 13 and R thing too, im from England.

I highly doubt they'd make BD an 18 in England.
18 is for extreme horrors/thrillers. So I think they'll make it a 15 at most, which is fine with me.

any ratings fine with me, as long as they stick to the book and make it into a film i will be happy

PG is parental guidance (pretty much for all ages)
PG13 is anyone 13 or older can see it, OR if you're with a parent
R is 18 or over (or is it 17 now, don't know)

I'm pretty sure it's 17 now for rated R movies.

PG-13 is Parental guidance for 13 and under and parents are strongly cautioned. R is Restricted to those under the age of 17 due to sexuality, violence etc. If you are under 17, you can still go to the theater to see it, you just have to have a parent with you or have Bella buy the ticket for Jacob....ha!

Ours sucks here in the states, trust me theres a HUGE difference in what we will see with a pg-13 or Rated R here in the states, we should have a pg-15 that would be better.

Thanks guys! Well, if under 17s can watch R with a parent/adult then they should defo go for R.

Better still, why not do a PG13 version, then a late night R version with a couple of additional scenes for the old fans. They do 'radio edits' of songs which remove all cuss words, so why not do something similar for movies?!

Thats a great idea! film makers should really come on these sites to get ideas for there films lol

Like she said, they're just going to tone everything down. It will be fine. No need to freak out. Did you really think it would be rated R? Please. The movie wouldn't make as much money with an R rating... they would lose half the audience.

Ok we already know about filltering (or what ever the heck are they called) images...but the PG 13 business pisses me off.
I hoped they'll make it R, but deep down inside I knew that that's never going to happen.

I could do withouth Edwards ripping Bella's uterus, but come on....if they tone down Bella/Edward scenes (you know what I'm talking about lol) it would just be silly.
I know that we don't actually see anything on Isle Esme, but there are stuff afterwards that are kinda steamy.
I agree the story is more about the realationship, but you gotta show more of that realtionship on the screen.
I don't know how much of that stuff can be under PG 13 rating.

I guess money is what's important....and a lot of Twilight fans are under 17. Even thought there is a lot of us that are in their 20es.:(

don't forgot us girls in our 30's!! However sad we may look to you young'uns!

don't forget us guys in our thirties as well, i know plenty of men who love the books and movies.

Good point!
Also girls in their 30s and 40s even....better put everyone over 20!

my mums a complete twilight nut and shes 49

YEAH! :)

haha i'm 22 and i feel too old for it sometimes...then i remember all of us in our teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, etc and i don't feel so bad...you guys do not look sad...i think its awesome that so many people from different ages are into this...i mean the love story part of twilight is timeless and ageless!

Amen!!!!
I'm 32 and I could tear Rob P up!!

I think that if you don't want your teen daughter watching a R movie, why in the hell did you let her read the book? this movie won't be right unless it's R

Yay! I'm so excited!!!

Breaking Dawn, i think anyway, is so much more adult in all the themes that you cant leave out or dull it down. Plus its Eclipse thats the violent one, more so than BD. The latter is more sexual, has Bella hunting and that sort of thing. Heck i'll give the script a go if the want LOL

hahaha, yea i think it would b great if the work was done by fans, cuz theyr the ones with the brains and kno wat evryone wants

OK I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE HALE VOTED FOR PG-13. LOL

people under 17, would be my guess. lol
I voted R, but then I will have no trouble seeing it legally even if it were NC-17, lol.

NC-17 was'nt even an option but it should hav been there

AMEN! And I think she will be surprised when she sees the audience for New Moon! It would just be the tweens this time round!

guys think about it, summit will never agree to an r rating. This would simply cut their profits in half.

But they could do NC-17. ""and u said cut their profits?"" doubt it.... first NC-17 would probably give then bigger profets and secound you know these books are way too big to have its sales cut in half it just would never happen.

I looked up NC17 and it said no one under 18 is allowed, even with a parent. I didn't realize that was what they meant. But now that I do, I don't think that will work.

How much does the director have to do with how graphic the scenes are in a film? I know that David Slade, will keep Eclipse toned down but it will be pg-13 but probably a graphic pg 13.

I understand the sex should be toned down BUT the part of her giving birth come on thats the best part. I saw it all in my mind I could even see Edward puting the syringe in his mouth and extracting the venon and that was not even in the book LOL!!!

Im in england and not getting the whole distinction. we got U, PG, 12, 15 and 18 ratings here. the sex wont be shown as graphic as porn and the is no violence. Im sure the birth scne can be shot easily and loyal to the book. Plus is it not down to the screenwriter and not the script writer on the cinematography?? If she says this aout BD how is edward and seth supposed to rip apart Victoria and Riley in Eclipse??
By the way there is no mention of a vampire bleeding in the books if memory serves??

we only have 4 ratings.. rated G thats for kids. all ages.

rated PG. parental guidance

rated PG 13. 13 and younger need a parent.

rated R you have to be 17 ,any younger with a parent.

I get the profit issue, but many twilight fans will be 17 by the time Breaking Dawn comes out....besides the violence MR mentioned is much more apparent in Eclipse.

they took off the La Push her comment o_0

I dont want any of the romantic stuff changed, but when it comes to the giving birth part i dont want it to be over the top gore like they do in some films... but i think they should still stick close to the book.. do that and I'll be happy :)

It would be nice if they could make 2 versions, one PG13 for the teens, and one R rated for us a little older than teen...Like 46 and an avid twilight fan. I would really like to see some of the most important parts of the book...ie: Isle Esme, the birth/transformation

wow. i hope she will not tone down the sex scenes... hum...

Check out this http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b12...
It seems that they are already talking about the new characters in Eclipse, like RILEY..... and the potential actors for this role like Channing Tatum!

I don't know much about Channing, but the picture I saw made him look a little older than I thought Riley was. The book describes him:
"I could barely look at the blond boy - yes, he was just a boy, though he was muscular and tall, maybe my age
when he was changed."

Out of curiosity from those who know him, would he fit the part?

I don't know how this will play out. From my understanding, one of Stephanie Meyer's stipulations was that the movies had to be PG-13 not R or NC-17. Now that was before Breaking Dawn was being talked about being made. Not sure if she would change her stance though. It will be interesting to see what happens.

when the BD movie comes out ill still be too young to see it if it's an R.. but if making it an R is what it takes to make the movie do justice to the book then, i can wait until im old enough for my parents to allow me to watch it.. if it is made a pg-13 i think they will have some hard work filming some of the scenes and managing to keep the overwhelming emotion that is so important in BD

i didnt realise that the birth scene was that bad until i read some of these comments.. when i read that in the book i didnt really think it was that gory, but i was a bit too distracted by all the tears filling up my eyes to notice any of the gruesome details, but then i re-read it a few times and i do have to admit, that was quite bloody and disgusting, but it's such a key scene in the story, they simply can't take it out

i myself was more disturbed by the honeymoon scenes than the birth scene

but i think people shouldnt be worrying about BD just yet, and people should be concentrating more on the filming of NM. to me, that book was the most emotionaly overwhelming and it's going to take some really hard work for chris weitz to adapt steph's amazing emotional poetry to the big screen. so let's not get distracted by what will and wont be in BD just yet, while we should be worrying about if NM will live up to the book or will just be a total let down.

Yeah the sex could be left to the imagination suductive but thats all its not nesesary and not in the book and honestly with so much controversy with Kristen and Robert why put them through that? But the birth scene shouldn't be subtle in my opinion it was just to well written. and *Nataniasmom* i dont think Edward was so carefull in that instance as opposed to being more agressive ancious and desperate to bring Bella back even as a vampire

I just meant that he didn't "loose it"
If he had he could have done more harm then good with his super strength.
He was doing everything he could, but he was still able to keep her fragile human body and the baby in mind at the same time.
It was very calculated.

ok, let's all pull together and think about this. what scenes would Rosenberg have to 'simmer down' and make PG-13

Certain parts of the Honeymoon- I'm ok with Bella joining Edward for a swim, and then the next shot it's the morning and she has the feather's all over her and the broken headboard and she's covered with bruises.

Bella's pregnancy- hmmmm.. this part shouldn't have to be toned down

Reneesme's birth- would they just leave this out? would the fact that edward has to rip the baby out of bella's stomach be changed to a regular birth? and would they cut where Reneesme bites Bella? hmm.

I'd say those are the most graphic scenes, right?

I can survive without gore scenes but... I can survive without you know the BEST scenes of Breaking Dawn because Bella gets what she wanted and it's was beautiful and painful when understand that he has hurt her but she don't care. The painful in Edward face when he thought bella will die. All Breaking Dawn scene are so cool, they can't "mix" all.

Did you mean to say can't ?

Oh yeah the second "can" is actually can't. Sorry for my strange English, I'm french and a little absent-minded ^^

No, it's ok, lol. I assumed that is what you meant, just wanted to verify :)
And you don't have strange English, it's great :)

I don't want to be offensive, but are you all crazy? It's pretty obvious, that the Breaking Dawn, if made to movie, would be PG-13. First, Stephanie is a Mormon, Second, with lower rating, there is bigger probability to earn money (in my country, most fans I've heard of are young girls like 13 or 14 years old).
And my own opinion? I've read all the books and I must say, that I didn't like BD at all - I have many reasons - but nonetheless, if BD would me a movie, I will go and watch it, out of curiosity. But I really don't need to see Kristen vomitting blood and Rob chewing her belly - really! So, I am really happy, that the Screenwriter wants to tone such scenes down. Otherwise we would watch another Alien movie (that's what the birthscene looks like to me)...

Regardless of being a Mormon.... SHE WROTE IT!!! If she didn't want the series to be graphic and some pretty intense scenes then WTF? Why write it that way. She wasn't thinking about being a mormon so much when writing about Edward cutting Bella's belly open with his effin teeth! Come on people!

Well if u want to call me crazy then yea guess i am...lol I didn't think that the book was exactly PG-13 myself but that may be just me. I was so drawn into the book that i could picture ALOT of things that i was reading....so there for I don't see it as PG-13!! As far as where im from (Texas) yes there are alot of younger girls but there are more Older fans just like on here Most of us are older!! So I want the movie made as close to the book as possible so it needs to be made with an R rating in my opinion!!!!

I agree... the whole chewing belly thing is weird. Other than that i loved all the books...and the movies should stay as true as possible.

It's going to PG-13 no matter what fans, screenwriters, etc say. Summit isn't going to risk losing money by upping the rating. It doesn't really matter to me since I'm well over 17, but there are a lot of kids who won't be old enough to see it and there are quite a few parents who actually don't let their kids watch R rated movies. It's sad, but true.

I'm hoping they'll film more....uh...explicit? No um...some more Detailed (we'll go with that) like honeymoon sceens and stuff which they'll have to cut and then it'll be unrated on the DVD >.> A girl can dream. Besides! According to some directors, they'll film sceens they KNOW won't be able to cut the rating so that when they show it to the raters they cut less of the other sceens because they focus on the more hardcore stuff.

You're probably right. It sucks because over half of the fans are 18 and older.

is R rated is an 18 in the uk right?

yes

Theres sin't taht much gore and sex in the book more lust than anything................... they can dim the sex scene down as long as you feel the passion and some of their body is touching and all the positions for sex and such are covered and seems to be happening but under the cover of the sheets for the most aprt as longa s it's not too short it'll be fine................. but the voilence and pain of teh story is very much important

Am I the only one that gets angry about this just by looking at the stupid picture of her? lol
Keep checking NMM.org main page to see if there is a petion against ruining BD on there yet for me to sign, lol.

I really don't care what the rating is. xD
But she's probably going for a PG-13 rating.

i think there is was 2 make it a graphic pg-13 but it will leave stuff out. i agree that the sex stuff should be left out but the birth definaty not nude but dont cut it out that would be a diaster

Oh no!
Sex between a loving, MARRIED, committed couple who waited until marriage to loose their virginity, not that!
Heaven forbid we have sex that icludes good morals and teaches a good lesson.
I compare that to the sex in so many other movies,
I would rather my teenager see this example then most others.
Just me.
Rate it R, since this uptight country claims to be so strict on what kids see, and include the entire story.

I know you guys are all eager for Rob Pattinson nude and all that, but you have to realize how hard this is for the actors. I mean, you're taking all your clothes off, and pretending to have sex in front of 50 people! That's embarassing! It was hard for one of the actors in Sex and the City: The Movie, when he did a shower scene. I mostly agree with Lee_seth, the whole black-outs part. I mean, that's what happens in the book, right. And for all those people who are rooting for an NC-17 rating, you're only thinking of yourselves. There is a wide variety of TwiFans, from 9 to 30, and if we get an NC-17 rating, all those 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 year olds are going to be so dissappointed. Also-if we get a sexy PG-13 rating, think of the 10 and 12 year olds who have to sit in the theater with their parents! That's bad for them too.

My opinion: Go with the PG-13 rating. It includes everyone, and you can get all the parts in it without the NC-17 sex or gore.

I think the parents should be there! I think 15 and 16 can handle this. Why did your parent let you read this book?. We can see the passion just like they show it on TV for everyone to see. They use sheets don't they and they can do that in the movie. As far as the Violence all the stuff they have on TV and video games. The actors are adults and Kristen and Robert both have already been in R movies.

Well, here is my opinion.
9 year olds should not be touching this book.
I want my daughter to read this series when she is older, she is only 3 right now.

But, the characters in the book are ALL 15 and over, and I would say 17, but Jake is the exception.
So, in my opinion no one under 15 or 17 should be reading this, that is not who the books were geared for.
17 year olds can see R rated movies and I would take my 15 year old to see this particular R rated movie.
So, Rate it R.

I agree with you. My sister asked me if my niece could read eclipse and BD and I said no. She is 11 and I said she should wait a few years.

One word ...Littile Ashes lol

I'm talking about the actors, guys, not the morals.

The aggrevating thing is that she can write gory stuff in a decent manner (hope that made sense. lol) She writes for the Showtim series Dexter - which is one of my favorites, it is about a serial killer, so she has the experience getting into that sort of thing, she should just not try to appeal to the younger audience only or she will lose alot of appeal from the book.

I honestly am not even sure if Breaking Dawn should be made into a movie.....I WANT it to, but am afraid - very afraid. lol Too much will just get ruined...

I know. It is frightening. And you are right...she has the capabilities of writing a great screenplay, so it makes no sense for her to be this way about any of the Twi-Saga. I'm so annoyed with her.

I dont really care and i dont think they should either specially cause usually (no all the time) people who read the books so they already know what would happen they've all pictured it.So just dull it down a little but dont make it all disney movie worthy like. uggggg


p.s. In the world we live in today kids have seen way worst especially on t.v.( i know i have{mmmm.hhmmmmm.})

what exactly in the books is worthy of an R rating? the sex scenes are never described and the violence is completely bloodless. the fight scenes are less gory than Lord of the Rings and they were all PG-13. it is entirely possible to make a PG-13 movie without taking anything out.

Agreed!

Breaking Dawn is going to be a tough movie to re-create; I'm just happy that Summit and S. Meyer are still considering making it into a movie. There's been a lot of controversy over the content of the fourth book, the length of the movie and the rating, and the recreation of Reneesme. There's also this transitional thing with Bella's character. With the first two books (and part of Eclipse)- teens can relate to Bella's character a lot, especially with her still being in high school. Once we get to book 4 and Bella gets married and becomes a vampire- that connection is shifted where even Stephenie Meyers agrees Bella is harder to relate to (with regard to a younger audience). She went from a stumbly teen to this beautiful creature- how could anyone relate?

Similarly, how can anyone make that same shift on the silver screen? It's going to be difficult to market the correct audience, no matter what. Like I said, I'm just happy that there are rumors of the book even being made into a movie. As important as every chapter and event is to me in BD, we all have to accept that a lower movie rating = more money. Summit production is in the business of making money- and that's how they'll do it. Sucks, I know.

Also, the scene from Twilight- where Edward and Bella first kiss? That scene was WAY racier than anything that ever happened in the first three Twilight books. In BD, i'm sure all you fans will at least get another one of those scenes..

I don't think Stephenie Meyer herself watches rated R movies....I remember reading that somewhere.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if she does not watch Rated R movies then she should have wrote it for a rating under R. Don't get me wrong I love the books and I think she is a great author.

No offense taken. I've been trying to figure out how much they could include with a PG-13 rating versus a R rating. I have things I want to see in BD, like the wedding, the HONEYMOON, the birth, Bella's transformation, and of course everything else. I'm sure there are ways they can convey what is going on with the birth without making it a complete blood bath. I pictured it fairly violent in my head but maybe they don't need to show Edward biting into her to get Renesmee out, maybe you only hear the ripping. I dunno. Sorry for the rambling. This is my second favorite book next to Eclipse. I just really want to see it brought to the screen.

You people honestly make my day.

You guys you don't under stand how hard it is to make this movie perfect .You must capture the right essence of the the book to make it a movie. Now i don't like Melissa either and i do admit that so of the things in twilight were not right. Example: Bella and Edward hardly know each other in the beginning then all of a sudden edward's like "bella we shouldn't be friends" at the field trip! Not to mention they left out bella fainting in biology (maybe edward couldn't pick bella up!) New moon is going to be tough to make! And breaking Dawn should be pg 1-3 because my parents wouldn't let me see it!!!!

And in twilight bella found out about edward the wrong way!!!!! From.......a.....Book!!!!!! not from edward himself that part ticked me off!!!!!!!

Why did they let you read it? You can wait to watch it, I had to wait to watch certian movies when I was your age. It will be worth the wait.

I hope they stay true to the book but if the decision to make it comes down to whether or not it is too mature for a yonger audience than I rather them make a PG 13 version rather than not at all! Also did they say something about 3 more films in the article? Does than mean that if they make Breaking Dawn that it will be made into 2 films? I hope so if they try to fit it all into 1 Im afraid they will cut too much out!

i'm not a big fan of twilight's adaptation of the book, ergo, not a big fan of the scriptwriter,
but what she said about there's no twilight w/o rob pattinson is soooo true.
rob /edward is the very center of the film / books

Thats what im always talking about to my friends and on the chat rooms here. like If Twilight was PG-13 then what would Breaking Dawn be when its more mature?
and then mostly teenagers are into the Twilight Saga...so it's a problem.

I THINK PG13 IS GOOD BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FANS ARE UNDER AGE AND IT WOULD KILL THEM NOT TO ABLE TO SEE IT IN THEATERS AND IF IT WASNT PG13 IT WOULDNT BE GOOD FOR THE MOVIE EATHER BECAUSE IT WOULDNT MAKE AS MUCH MONEY..

making the movie shouldn't be about the money. yes this world runs on money but if they think they won't make money on it their crazy. The twilight saga is a worldwide phenomenon.

People started making movies as artistic expressions. and stephenie meyers book was an artistic expression of a dream she had. it should be done right.

if these "13 year old fans" were given permission to read the book why wouldn't they be able to see the movie? and if there parents are that stupid then they should have to wait. i'm not saying it should be hardcore sex scenes and blood/gore but it needs to be done right.

I'm sorry but we have to be realistic, the producers are not going to lose all the money they would be getting from the young fans, that's there job this is how they make there money, and yeah like you said people started making movies as artistic expression but times have changed and sales play a big part now in days, so i think most intelligent thing they can do is try and please all of there audience.

i think the movie doesn't need to be gruesome to get the point across. One of the reasons i liked the first movie was because it was different from other movies, it didn't seem fake and if they were to do all this bloody nonsense it would take away from the movie.

a lot of people loved twilight even if it was a little different from the book, so just because the last movie (breaking dawn) doesn't have all those crazy scenes doesn't mean it won't be done right.

What are you taking this poll for?
SM specifically said that part of the Twilight contract was that the movies were to be rated NO HIGHER then PG-13.
This arguement is pointless, the author herself refuses to allow an R rating.
Accept it and get on.

yup i agree with you just accept it and move on!!

People Stpehenie won't allow a Rated R movie no matter how much we want it, and Melissa one of the writers of Dexter so she has no problem with the blood and guts. Have any of you ever watched a PG-13 movie? Indiana Jones and theTemple of Doom is PG-13and a man gets his heart ripped out, not to mention that The RIng was PG-13, The Grudge was PG-13, DIrty Dancing was PG-13 and the Notebook was PG-13.

Well this is true: "You can’t have a Twilight without Rob Pattinson.”
Rob is the heart of this franchise.

While it is true, I hope it is true to the book. We need to miss Edward as much as Bella does in the book and that means he has to be somewhat absent. Then it makes the reuniting at the end autheintic.

What i heard is that when Stefanie Meyer went to get Twilight published no other company would publish it except Little Brown Books, which i think is a childrens book company? I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED HOW THE SAGA IS CONSIDERED CHILDRENS BOOKS.

Young adult is considered 10 or 11-21 in the publishing industry. Twilight was more of a young adult book but the others in the series get progressively more mature. Once Twilight got stuck in that category, there was nothing she could do.

Yeah, I think the publishers wanted to keep it aimed at young adults. Her original sequel to Twilight, Forever Dawn, was aimed at an older audience I think.

Within the vampire fiction genre, the entire Twilight saga is PG13 which is why it is in the 'Young Adult' section of your local bookstore so I think if BD ever gets made they will try to make it as true to the book as possible in order to not alienate the huge fan-base. Certainly, the wishes of the author must also be respected. I don't think we can ever get visual representation of the more gory bits eg. birth scene as written with Edward biting her etc ... but it is still possible to imply without actually showing. Even the 'sex' (if you can actually call it that!) in BD is implied, not a single description of the act is actually written! Broken headboards and feathers are easy to show. I think the real challenge in BD would be Bella's 'amazing' transformation from plain human to goddess- Iike beautiful sexy vampire without alienating audience sympathy towards the character. Those of us who want to see 'more' of Robert Pattinson are going to have to watch 'Little Ashes' or wait for him to do more mature-themed movies.

the sex wasnt described just implied. and im getting annoyed for some reason. lay off melissa, its not our decision what they write and how the rating is. if its pg13 deal with it, who cares. i personally dont like watching blood and guts and most fans are under 18 not over. they can still include all the important stuff without making it rated R.

In Breaking Dawn Stephenie never goes into the sex scenes in detail. If you watch TV nowadays the things you see are far worst than what she says in the story. It's not like we want a minute by minute description of what they do because that does not happen in the book. Their is really nothing that they should leave out for the rating thing. Renesmee's birth is a bit graphic but not something that they have to worry about.... Throw some clothes on Bella and call it a day. They NEED to keep it true to the story, that is what we all care about.

OMG! I was under the impression that Twilight was rated PG, I just checked the box and it said PG-13, I didn’t see anything in that movie that was PG-13 they almost kissed, A scene of sensuality, Breaking Dawn is doomed! Now I am really concerned about New Moon and Eclipse! I mean they don't say I love you, what could be more pure.

yea i didnt realize it that either. probably b/c of the action sequence and blood sucking, idk. also, a petition might not help. it might just deter them from making the BD into a movie at all.
what are you concerned about?

I'm guessing that R in the States is MA here in Aust?

If that was PG-13 what about the fights and it gets darker. I just did not realize it was PG-13, I have watched other movies that were PG-13 and they had a lot in them. Wow, well I have nothing else to say.

WE should start a petition!! =]

TIME FOR A NEW SCREEN WRITER, SUMMIT! I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF THIS WOMAN WRITES BD, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE MANGLED BEYOND RECOGNITION!

I think she is on drugs or something .... IF I had a PG - aged child, I wouldnt be having them read Breaking Dawn... just for the honeymoon chapter alone! And, how does she propose to have the honeymoon scene (which, I might add is CRUCIAL to the story .. since it sets everything up for Renesme, the aliance, the witnesses...the last clearing scene...) without making it rated R? ANYONE who has read the saga and has fallin in love with these characters will agree that the story NEEDS that connection made between Edward and Bella! and while the story is about their relationship and their love and the triangle and all..... I wanna see some blood in Eclipse! and I wanna see more than them kissing and the damn camera panning off into the sunset in Breaking Dawn....
I think the TRUE fans will agree!
(and how is she gonna keep blood out of the movie when Bella hunts?....honestly, thats important too!)

Well done whoever started this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.c...

If you want to see Breaking Dawn done properly PLEASE sign this petition, forward it to as many Twilight fans as possible so Summit sit up and take notice!!!

Firstly that I have to say that yes they need to stay as true to the book as possible, but Stephenie Meyer is LDS (Mormon) as are many of the fans. Most Mormons do not watch rated "R" movies. Therefore I believe that Stephenie will have more to say about the rating aspect than you may think. They would be cutting off a huge fan base by making it R rated. You can do a lot with a PG-13 rating. I do think they should shop around for screenplay writers though because I think Melissa needs to go.

So.... We are all pretty much on the same target when it comes to BD rating.. Umm.. It makes you wonder if Summit and SM is REALLY listening to the fan base. Seriously!! Once the script is written; they aren't going to go through the whole re-writing of it again (too time consuming and expensive).. These books are cherished and adored by a wide spectrum of an audience. To come out with a statement of keeping it PG13 for the intended readers... Excuse me?? Didn't SM older sister push her to get the books printed?? How can Melissa come out with such a statement and think that there won't be any back lash.. So... I think EVERYONE should sign the petition ( http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.c...) and send it to Summit to either replace the writer or increase the rating.
I've invested alot time in reading these books and have enjoyed them emensely. I want feathers!! Yes, I do want to feel the anxiety of the delivery! SM wrote them like this and I want to see them like this.. She became an overnight success because of this and we the readers deserve to see the books come to life.. Not a water down version!

Warning- this is long but might be helpful to others who are worried—
from the MPAA “PG-13 rating is a sterner warning…to parents to determine whether their children under 13 should view, as some material might not be suited for them…may go beyond the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, adult activities or other elements…. More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented. There may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence.”
There’s also some stuff about mature language that I skipped over- but that’s not relevant to SM’s books anyway. So what does this mean= they can show nudity but it cannot be prolonged in the scene- they can also show sex/ sexual situation s but they cannot be graphic or pornographic in nature. They can show violence and adult situations (ie Renesmee’s birth) but not in a graphic or gorey way such as placentas flying. Many studios try to avoid an R rating if possible because they want to pull in that teen audience. (FYI- James Bond movies, Romeo & Juliet- the one with Leo DiCap, all Xmen movies, The Count of Monte Cristo, & The Other Boleyn Girl are all pg13- and they have violence, sensuality, brief nudity & even some bonafide sex scenes) If they stick to the book the sex scenes are fine (we never get any real nudity in the book anyway- take another look at the scenes its’ almost as if they WERE written for the screen with the fade away to the moon, etc). They can even be done in a montage sort of way like they do on primetime tv and in soaps. I don’t think we’d lose the mood- as long as they don’t cut the aftermath (feathers, broken headboard, bruises& post-sex conversations).
The birth scene IS tricky but necessary for many reasons. I think a couple of elements can be alluded to without actually being shown & we would still have the drama. Seeing as that scene in the book is told by Jacob they can show it from Bella’s perspective similar to the ballet studio scene in the Twilight movie. (You know- how she kinda fades in & out seeing parts of it instead of Edward telling her later). So it will be more like flashes of images, her thrashing, some blood, seeing Edward heading for her stomach to bite her, baby crying- Jacob says ‘throw it out the window’ & Edward hands Bella the baby & it bites her- Jacob takes the baby & Edward starts trying to save her- I imagine the last thing we’ll see from this scene is him about to plunge the syringe into her heart. Next Jacob imprints (if they even touch that one- it will have to be perfectly set up in New Moon & Eclipse movies to avoid any creep out factor).
So I really think they CAN do what we want from the book without going beyond pg13-according to the MP Assoc’s ratings description. But will they is the real question…I am a purist so I was not happy with Rosenberg’s meddling in the Twilight movie. I only hope that our frustration with her ‘creativity’ has not gone unnoticed & things will improve in the upcoming films. Would I prefer R= yes in all it's descriptive lovely adult details, but it won't happen with this production company (sorry). Hope this ratings research helped .

forget mellissa......WE SHOULD WRITE THE SCRIPT FOR BREAKING DAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whole load of shite come on it can't be a 13PG what about all of us fans who are teens now and by 2011 we will be old enough to go see 15's or even 18's it has just made me so annoyed this grrrr!!

This will be my last word on this subject; passion is not the same thing as hard core sex! Of course we want to see Edward and Bella’s passion, if done right everyone would be pleased. They did wait until they were married, it’s not like they are having a one night stand. I think that is good for young people to see. As far as the gore, I’m sure that could be done where everyone would be pleased. We want to see the romance and the action, it could be done. However, with this screen writer, who leaves out I LOVE YOU, in a love story, that is pure, and you leave that out. I don’t know if she is the right person to pull this balance off. It would take some skill to be able to get the right balance and it can be done. I just don’t think Melissa is that person, and of course a good director.

im a teenager, but by the time BD is filmed and released, i would be old enough to watch that @ cinemans anyway. the current teenage fans would want the script to be R, they've already read the books and used their own imagination to create images which can be worse than what they make in films anyway. i would hate Isle Esme scenes fade to black...an if your that faint hearted you cant stand the violence, dont go and see it!!

i soo agree, i'm a teenager too and i dnt get wat the big fuss is, i mean we read it, we mite as well c it too. and wtf i c much worse than that on cable, i srsly dnt kno wat this woman is going on about. and its not like wer gonna b teenagers forevr

Read the book again--The Isle Esme scenes basically do fade to black! Everyone is so excited about sex scenes that are only alluded to in the book.

stay true to the book... gruesome/sex scenes and all.
i was really upset with the first movie because it was missing a lot of parts from the book. the movie became a hit because of the book..so stick to the book as much as possible. i'm 20 years old and i loved the 4th book because Bella seemed more mature and more responsible, which definitely appeals to those older. i vote rated R over PG-13. Breaking Dawn is nothing with a PG-13 rating.

ok um i really want them to stick to the book but if it's rated R then i can't see it so....

well....i really want them to stick to the book but i'm not allowed to see R rated movies so....

OMG shes talking about how SHE doesn't want to see blood and gore and the rest..... who the hell cares what she wants???????!!! its what the fans want she should seriously do some research nd see that not all the fans are from the kiddie set. S.M. pleease do somthing QUICK

uhhh excuse me but i am speaking for the twilighters under 18 , dont u think we wanna see amovie hello think about us do u really think your parents would let u see an r rated movie at the age of 11 or 12 i dont think so so if they can still make a good movie without the sex cuz the gores not that big a deal but without the sex would be better and u can still stay close to the book just without sex!

I think M.R. should stick to the story on the book. I mean.. what's the use of following the title without following the book? Stephenie should disagree with M.R. because the entire saga is like her daughter! We all know that Bella got her name from Isabella that Stephenie was saving if she got a daughter. She must stick to Stephenie's work.

I've just checked the petition and there are only 48 signatures on it!

PLEASE GUYS AND GALS, IF YOU'VE WRITTEN A COMMENT ON THIS PAGE IN AGREEMENT THAT B.D. SHOULD BE RATED R, YOU SHOULD SIGN THE PETITION. IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE TO DO: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.c...

Also, don't forget to logon to facebook and join the group "Petition to Make Breaking Dawn Rated R". Even if you've already signed the petition, this a quick way of inviting your friends to do the same rather than emailing them all.

I think this whole PG-13 thing is ridiculous. They need to make the movie as close to the book as possible. That involves a lot of passion and romance. Theres nothing wrong with that, its a part of life. Evidently, MR doesnt realize that all there is on TV is sex. And Breaking dawn isnt disgusting sex, it was passionate. When people read books they let their imagination build the picture in their mind of how the movie would look, so they are expecting what they pictured in their head. If Stephanie Meyer wants the film to be PG-13, then shes ignoring her book and changing everything that she wrote about. Im tired of falling inlove with books, and then the movie really disapointing me. MR needs to go, she doesnt realize that if she doesnt make these movies like the books, shes got a LOT of angry fans.

Much love Twilighters<3

Melissa is an idiot.

If parents were smart, they would use something their teenage child loves, Breaking Dawn, as a platform to bring up safe sex...not exposing your child to something isn't going to prevent them from doing it - better to keep it out in the open (especially if it is a naked RPattz!)

I'm 19, and i would be able to see the movie if it was R..but personally rosenberg can stick with the book and it probably would not even b R... first of all the sex scenes in BD are implied they don't go into real detail when there having sex.and there are other movies out there where sex is pretty big and they sometimes get rated PG-13. second of all everyone keeps talking about the gore...the gore is only in one scene and it isn't even that bad..there are gorrier movies out there that are rated PG-13...so everyone just needs to calm down...your are so exaggerating the stuff in the books

MR's version of Twilight was a mess. Most of the scenes didn't event flow together smooth (Edward on the tree telling why he hated Bella, Bella has bag/book at dinner, doesn't at police station, but has when she gets home, Edward telling her he'll drive,etc.) She'll probably screw with New Moon too if the director doesn't step in! 3/4 of "Breaking Dawn" reflects Edward & Bella's love as a husband and wife, not as two teens having pre-marital sex. Stephanie's novel is also not promoting teen pregnancy. As for MR stating that the books revolve around a younger fan base (13-16), Well MR, where do you think this fan base came up with the money to purchase the book(s)? Is that fan base grabbing sleeping bags and staying out all night to catch a glimpse of these stars...NO! There at home, watching Hannah Montana or High School Musical! What MR is failing to understand is that realistically this young fan base will still be watching. The parents have AlWAYS been the key to purchasing this fan base their tickets, 13 yr. olds DO NOT WORK! If Breaking Dawn was rated R it would, once again, still be up to the parents if they could still go see it. My kids loved the series and thought "Breaking Dawn" was "awesome" and there is no way I wouldn't take them with me to see the finale of this amazing saga, rated R or not!

Yeah! there is a young fan base, but who do you think is purschasingthose tickets? Mom...Dad? Yeah...I'm sorry but a 13 yr. old rarely has their won job, unless they look at allowance, who is given by...Mom...Dad! How many of that "young fan base" are camping out all night to catch a glimpse of the cast? Someone needs to tell MR that her young fan base is at home watching Hannah Montana or High School Musical! I don't think it really matters, to be quite honest, whether it's PG-13 or R rated...parents are still going to take MR so-called "young fan base"!

Lord of the Rings was PG13 and it had enough gore for the whole Twilight saga
the only blood is when Nessie is born!

For those people that think we're all "imagining" things that are only implied in the book, here are some extracts from a chapter of the book as written by Stephenie Meyer:

"I heard the fabric tearing under our hands, and I was glad my clothes, at least, were already destroyed. It was too late for his. It felt almost rude to ignore the pretty white bed, but we just weren't going to make it that far.... I could really appreciate him now - could properly see every beautiful line of his perfect face, of his long, flawless body with my strong new eyes, every angle and every plane of him. I could taste his pure vivid scent on my tongue and feel the unbelievable silkiness of his marble skin under my sensitive fingertips. My skin was so sensitive under his hands, too. He was all new, a different person as our bodies tangled gracefully into one another on the sand-pale floor...Then he pulled his fingers very slowly down my face, lightly tracing from my jaw to my throat and then all the way down to my waist. My eyes rolled back into my head a little...We laughed together, and the motion of our laughter did interesting things to the way our bodies were connected, effectively ending that conversation."

Perhaps someone could explain to me how the majority of us have imagined this when the words are clearly written on the page? Not once does this passage of the book fade to black, this isn't implied it is described by SM and not some figment of my imagination. I'd be very interested to know how this could appear in a PG-13 film??? I would never have been allowed to read something like this when I was 12 or 13, it is an adult book and the film should reflect that. If a 12 or 13 year old has read the book the film shouldn't need to be toned down - it is only "implied" afterall, there's nothing adult about the extract above is there......

By the way, 74 signatures on the petition so far! :o)

Omg Is This Lady Insane !!!
So What !! Its Not Like In the Book They Really Explain Them Havin Sex Its Just Like The After Bit
She So Cant Change It!!!

I'm not going to lie. When it came to all that snapping and popping that went on when Bella was about to go into labor made me nauseous. I had to stop the audiobook, relax and prepare myself then dive back into it..lol But if the movie won't have all of that, then they should just not make the movie at all, just stop at Eclipse...that is, if they don't mess that one up too. Because they have some definite gore in Eclipse!

i think that MR is making very offensive comments to twilight fans. first of all there are 40 and 50 yr olds reading and loving these books. little tweens shouldn't be anywhere near these books, they aren't even physicologically capable of completely understanding everything going on in these books. If parents do not agree with the violence of the sexual parts being in the movie, then there is now reason they should be okay with the books. Books are always more descriptive than movies could ever be.

Fact is.. she needs to stick to the books and show every detail.. or someone else willing to do that needs to be hired.

if you think about it everyone who is 15 now will be old enough to watch it when it comes out.

All fans are not 13. When are they going to realize that. What a bunch of idiots. Bella is a married women of legal age in the last book. Guess what, she can have sex!! If you are 13 and read the books you know this. You imagined it while reading it like we all do. If parents don't want the kids to see this don't let them go. Don't ruin this saga. You have a great cast of young talented actors. Stay with the story as much as possible. It will still makes $$$$$$. Let Bella grow up like Stephenie did. Do justice to this story please!!!!!

Ok... so... really? Sexual tension leads to where? And what are they going to plan next, immaculate conception?

As a film major let me tell you guys that any talented Director could keep the PG- 13 Rating and still stay true to the book. It's called movie magic. Shadowing, graphic sound effects, and Close-UPs on the characters faces to see their horrified reactions. If they do it right, what you don't see can even be more terrifying. Now a days PG-13 can be pretty graphic, so I'm sure there could be some fun gore. The birthing scene would really be fun to shoot.

As for the sex scene, the book wasn't too graphic, so I don't think the movie should be either. It would be fun to see Edward tear up pillow with his teeth though. LOL

And it is true Summit wants to make the most money possible, and for that PG- 13 Rating is the way to go.

Now lets just hope they get a good director, they keep changing them.