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Let’s Re-Read New Moon Together! Chapter 21

by MrsEdwardCullen on November 16, 2009 · Comments

in New Moon Re-Read

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We are on Chapter 21 of our countdown that means 4 MORE DAYS! Until the release of New Moon. Join us by reading a chapter a day together. So in order to help pass the time while we wait for New Moon to be released, I will continue to post a thread everyday for each chapter in the book, counting down the days until the official release of the film on November 20th.

Chapter 21: Verdict

“Aro reached out, as if to shake my hand, and pressed his insubstantial-looking skin against mine.  It was hard, but felt brittle-shale rather than granite-and even colder than I expected…”

100 pages to go!  Ok confession time.  I’m more than mesmerized and fascinated by the Volturi.  The entire collective.  The way they live, their story, and their livelihood…and Jane…well, will converse about her in a minute :(

  • Pg. 464  We get introduced to Gianna and Alec(hotness!) I was just as shocked to read about “Gianna the human girl”  in the middle of a vampire dungeon, but then again Bella is basically the same.  Enter Alec.  “They send you out for one and you come back with two…and a half.  Nice work.”  Alec chuckled, and examined me as I clung to Edward’s side.  “And this is the cause of all the trouble?”  These Volturi are quite smug aren’t they?  Then Felix yells dibs on Bella! Smh
  • Pg. 465  So like I said I have a secret obsession with the Volturi, they continue to intrigue me, as well as baffle me.  And why are Jane and Alec holding hands?  Aren’t they supposed to be twins?  Someone help me out with these two.
  • Pg. 467  Everyone enters the room where The entire Volturi, and the rest of their guards are(minus Marcus & Caius).  Aro’s behavior right from the start, is super bizarre, and why in the world is Aro kissing Jane on the lips? Did I miss something?
  • Pg. 468  “I’m sorry we haven’t been introduced properly at all, have we?  It’s just that I feel like I know you already, and I tend to get ahead of myself.  Your brother introduced us yesterday, in a peculiar way.  You see, I share some of your brother’s talent, only I am limited in a way that he is not.”   So let me get this straight.  The Cullen’s & the Hale’s have never met the Volturi?  Only Carlisle?
  • Pg. 470-473  Aro continues to prolong the inevitable, by dragging out all these useless formalities, and not to mention making the hairs on everyone’s necks stand straight up.  The way Aro continues with his back & forth monologue is enough to make anyone wonder if the three thousand year old vamp, hasn’t gone insane.  Although I must say this, Aro seems a thousand times nicer in this book, than in the previews we’ve seen for the movie.  In the movie, he seems downright spooky
  • Pg. 474  The wrath of Jane.  When Jane unleashes her power to incapacitate, on Edward, she proves exactly why she is my least favorite member of the Volturi.  I feel Jane is a big bully and cannot defend herself so she uses her power to handle that because she is afraid of confrontation(yes a vampire who’s afraid, but that’s what I think)
  • Pg. 476  Marcus & Caius have arrived. Aro tries desperately to get Alice & Edward to join The Volturi(yikes)
  • Pg. 478  Caius finally speaks ”She knows too much.  You have exposed our secrets.”  “There are a few humans in on your charade here, as well,”  Edward reminded him, and I though of the pretty receptionist below.  “Yes, but when they are no longer useful to us, they will serve to sustain us.  That is not your plan for this one.  If she betrays our secrets, are you prepared to destroy her?  I think not.  Nor do you intend to make her one of us, therefore she is a vulnerability.  Though it is true for this, only her life is forfeit.  You may leave if you wish.”  Nice guy huh? He even give them a choice…whatever
  • Pg. 479  Our beloved, precious, amazing Alice once again comes in to save the day!  “And then Alice stepped away from us,  forward toward Aro.  We turned to watch her.  Her hand was raised like his.  She didnt say anything, and Aro waved off his anxious guard as they moved to block her approach.  Aro met her halfway, and took her hand  with an eager, acquisitive glint in his eyes.  He bent his head over their hands, his eyes closing as he concentrated.  Alice was motionless, her face blank.  I heard Edward’s teeth snap together.  No one moved.  Aro seemed frozen over Alice’s hand.  The seconds passed and I grew more and more stressed, wondering how much time would pass before it was too much time.  Before it meant somthing was wrong-more wrong than it already was.  Another agonizing moment passed, and then Aro’s voice broke the silence.  “Ha, ha,ha,” He laughed, his head still bent forward.  He looked up slowly, his eyes bright with excitement.  “That was fascinating!”  Alice smiled dryly.  “I’m glad you enjoyed it.”   “To see the things you’ve seen-especially the ones that haven’t happened yet!”  He shook his head in wonder.  “But that will.”  She reminded him.  “Yes, yes, it’s quite determined.  Certainly there’s no problem.” Once again Alice saved the day.   I feel it was extremely brave of her to even approach Aro to share her visions with him.  I’ve always hated the way Edward treated Alice like she is nothing but a constant annoyance, yet look at all she does for Edward & Bella. 
  • Pg. 481  After Aro has agreed to release Edward, Alice, and Bella, It’s announced that Heidi will be arriving shortly. “Ah, Felix.”  Aro smiled, amused.  “Heidi will be here at any moment.  Patience”  “Hmm.”  Edward’s voice had a new edge to it.  “In that case, perhaps we’d better leave sooner rather than later.”  “Yes,” Aro agreed.  “That’s a good idea.  Accidents do happen.  Please wait below until after dark, though if you don’t mind.”  So is Heidi like some butler for the Volturi that baits in the humans?  And the creepy awful part is when they could hear the screams from all the tourists.  *shudders*

So, what are your favorite parts from this chapter?  How do you feel about the Volturi?  Also I need my questions answered folks, I rely heavily on you for my answers lol

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  • JosefaP
    I just love this chapter, and Jane also <3_<3
    I just finished reading this book, i couldn't wait until november 20th reading each chapter ha ha

    I wonder the same about Jane and Alec, and the kiss between of Aro and Jane i mean Weird!!!

    I love heidi! I hope she dress the same clothes of the book in the movie.

    I guess all most the entire chapter will be in the movie.
  • ice_cold_fanpire
    Pg. 465 So like I said I have a secret obsession with the Volturi, they continue to intrigue me, as well as baffle me. And why are Jane and Alec holding hands? Aren’t they supposed to be twins? Someone help me out with these two.

    Pg. 467 Everyone enters the room where The entire Volturi, and the rest of their guards are(minus Marcus & Caius). Aro’s behavior right from the start, is super bizarre, and why in the world is Aro kissing Jane on the lips? Did I miss something?


    HELP ME TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    I'm really looking forward to how this chapter will look in the movie... ive skipped that sneak peak that was shown on Ellen with Dakota Fanning so I have really only seen what has been showes in the trailers and TV spots. so veryyy excited for this chapter in the movie.
    CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SOO CLOSE.. THE PREMIERE IS TODAY!! IS NOW!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH so excited!!!!!!!!
    life actually feels complete!!! ... and i havent even finished university for the year..... I have 1 more exam to go but i dont give a crap coz IM SEEING NEW MOON TOMORROW NIGHTTTTT


    welll i really so think life IS complete.

    OK!! ANYWAY BACK TO THE CHAPTER!!!!

    I like Mrs E-C's evaluation of Jane.. i never actually thought of her as affraid.. but it does seem to make sense... its like she only really has her power and its a scary power so it is the only reason why people are affraid of her... good work MrsEC

    Caius - ''Though it is true for this, only her life is forfeit. You may leave if you wish''
    - i really like this par tin the book.. coz then Edward gets all prtective... ahhh i cant wait eclipse and edwards protective nature to come out... think i might start reading it after ive seen new moon a few times (but edward may annoy me this time round reading eclipse - because i have really warmed up to jacob and he is soo carefree... hmm we'll just see)

    Heidi's a vampy prostitute... ah stephenie meyer.. the ideas you've got hidden away in that innocent little brain of yours (vampire dream .... yeeehhhhh rrriiigggghttttt lol)

    Alice pretty much saves the day, Edwards an idiot for going to such drastic measures, Bella is freaking out... BUT IT ALL DOESNOT MATTER COZ THEY ARE ALL GONIG TO LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.... WOOOOOO BRIN GON ECLIPSE (hmm im getting ahead of myself. we havent even finished new moon yet.... )

    OH! i cant wait for the next chapter where bella thinks shes dreaming.. and then when they vote. and of course the epilogue.. bloody jake!!!
  • CL
    OMG! I LOVE this chapter I swear it's my fav of the whole book!!!
    1) (enter Alec) *faint* I'm team Alec and I don't know how many times I have to say this but he's my Eddie/Jake!!! Okay! Deal with it!
    2) Alec and Jaen are holding hands becasue they are twins (some bonding maybe) you got to think about how they were almost burned at the stake and all, if I had a twin, I wouldn't don anything without him/her.
    3) Jane amazes in so many ways! she is all one of my fav Volturi's because she's so bad
    4) I love it when Aro and Jane kiss, makes me wonder (because in Breaking Dawn there were some lines) but I ship it, Team Jaro!
    5)Aro amazes me just as much as Jane... I love Sheen's acting in the sneak peeks, it's like they pulled book-aro right from my brian and put it on the big scren.
    6) Heidi creeps me out... enough said, but I love the little calm talk between Demetri and Heidi while stupid humans walk by going "Oh pretty picture! Oh pretty room! Oh SEXY men! OH.... crap...." but that's only me...
    7) one last thing- ALEC IS AMAZINGLY HOT!!!!!
    Team Volturi Girl
    CL
  • Chelsea
    Aro totally kisses Jane on the lips because they are in awful forbidden love. XD They are my crackship.

    I absolutely ADORE the Volturi. They're my favorite characters in the entire saga. Just so fascinating, creepy, and wonderful in their own right.
  • CL
    *highfive* So AGREED!
  • spikesgirl
    Aro must realise how subjective Alice's visions are because he can see every thought you have ever had - especially the most recent 'Bella is dead vision' that was the catalyst for this whole situation - so why is he so convinced by what alice shows him? - all roads lead to vampirism? no matter what choices Bella and Edward make she will always end up as a vampire?

    my favourite quote is "Caius' face twisted into a new expression. Was it supposed to be a smile?"
  • Twilight_is_my_escape
    I think Aro knows that Alice's visions are subjective, but he wants them to leave so that he can acquire them all in the future, as he attempts to do in Breaking Dawn, and is hinted at in Eclipse. Obviously he would have been planning that whole thing from the beginning, as it wasn't his first time using the Volturi's role as enforcers to gain useful talents.
  • eclipseluver
    favorite line: you remind me of carlisle. but he was never so angry. lol!
  • queenannie
    O.K. I just couldn't stand it anymore. reading the book one chapter a day was killing me, especially the last 5 or so. So I just broke down and finished it yesterday, and man was it wonderful AGAIN!
    Now I'm not sure what the heck I'm going to do for the next couple of days! maybe I'll start Eclipse or better yet, maybe I'll sit down and read New Moon again. I have enough time.
  • Twilight_is_my_escape
    I finished the whole book back when everyone was back at chapter 12, and now I'm rereading the end, my fav part, again one day at a time this week.
  • queenannie
    that is a good idea. all the nonsense in the middle is skipable :)
  • Gypsy0531
    lol. the only reason i read it was to build up the anticipation of edward coming back i never doubted he would.
    :)
  • Twilight_is_my_escape
    LOL! I wouldn't say skipable, but certainly can only be read so many times, and why torture myself with all that drama, when all I want is that sweetness of reunion.

    That and I don't want to start on my fav book Eclipse, cause I got way too much going on this week!! I gotta draw the line somewhere!!
  • Alice and Seth are my favourite 'other' characters too.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    would u like to join Team Sethward? I am currenltly recruiting for Eclipse...haha
  • FTB (Pattinslut)
    Hale yea Seth is the best. He sees the Cullen's for what they really are. They are not just vampires to him. He gets another two points for putting up with Leah's crap.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    I swear...he's number 1 in my book...he just deals with everybody's crap.. sams...jakes...edward and bellas... infinite patience is his wolf gift
  • Why not. I should support someone in the film who I don't want to do stuff to! It's a purely maternal feeling I have for Seth. Seeing as I'm old enough to be his mother! I LOVE that happy little punk!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    Im obsessed with hearing him chuckle in eclipse...right after he rips into riley....i will take out DS if he doesnt keep that part!...oh Team Sethward...i luv how they coordinate in that scene...oh man...im gushing again
    he is a happy lil punk isnt he...lol
  • I love all of his scenes but when he's sitting on the Cullen's couch eating the breakfast Edward made, my heart melted into a puddle. It's weird enough that Bella's so comfortable around vampires but for a werewolf to like them...it's adorable. And he loved Edward so that's another huge thing in Seth's favour.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    I agree completely...seth is the best...i forgot about that part... he was so calm in a hostile situation...and seriously... everyone loves him.
  • He's a honey. I want to adopt him!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    I may name my christmas puppy seth now...lolol
  • I was going to get a new kitten and call it Seth if it was a boy. Cute.
  • cantgetenoughedward
    NOT to get off topic, but I was just on msn they have a extra about EDWARD thru the years, and what he's been doing...a must check out.
    http://movies.msn.com/superfans/twilight/edward...
  • this is interesting
  • the volturi!
    "la tua cantante." bella is edward's singer.

    Aro in the book is so weird and he reminds me of dracula in some way. is he the same way in the movie? he doesn't seem like it.
  • AbaloneBlue
    OMG yes they seemed to have changed Aro’s character in the movie. I am not sure I will like that. In the book he is so eccentric and bizarre. He seems much scarier in the movie previews. Also he is supposed to save them because he wants and admires their extra talents. I am wondering how that will play out in the movie. That mouth kissing and holding had stuff is rather weird.

    The relationship between Edward and Alice is very special. That is one of the reasons I enjoyed reading the partial draft of Midnight Sun. http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/pdf/midnightsun_p... You see a lot of their relationship in that book.

    Don’t worry about Miss Jane she gets hers in BD. I love that part!!!!

    CAN’T WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY!!!!!!!
  • dazzledtwilighter
    I know I should fear the Volturi.... but... I am just so... fascinated by them.... but at the same time... they are the only characters out of this whole saga that really "scare" me..... James and victoria yes they are scary... its just something about the Volturi that have me... mesmerized.... but this was one of the scenes out of the sage that I really thought this was the end of Alice Bella and Edward.... I really thought they would die... every time I read this chapter.... I feel such an adrenaline rush... and I can't help but feel Bella's fear....
    as for quotes.... I really want the dialogue between Aro and Edward to be there when Aro says he has more self-control then Carlisle.... and how Aro tells Edward la tua cantante I really want to see that word for word in the movie!

    4 more days! and the hollywood premiere tonight! Woo-Who!

    you can head to this link for red carpet stuff!
    http://www.myspace.com/newmoonpremiere
  • Kat
    First off, Volturi.. LOVE EM. Love the idea that there are a group that can scare even vampires. I think without them the vamps would be too free to go around on killing sprees and such.
    Anyway, I feel that Alec and Jane, being twins, are the closest to each other than anyone else, and sort of have that bond. Therefore the handholding for me is not really that strange. They're old, they've been around for a while.. perhaps they are just that comfortable with each other.
    As for Jane kissing Aro, I feel that this was Stephenie's way of showing how devoted and in awe the guard are of the three leaders, Aro in particular. And again, they're around 3,000 years old. I'm sure it was normal back in the day. LOL.
    I actually disagree with you with the way Edward is annoyed with Alice. I don't think the annoyance is really an angered annoyance. I think it's all in good fun. They're pretty close when you read all the books and Alice does act bratty with Edward liked the fight practices during Eclipse when she sticks her tongue out at Edward and he laughs. I just think that that's their relationship but I also think they're very close and with their abilities they kind of stick together most of the time with having to see the future and hear thoughts. I love their relationship.
    I think my favorite concept of this chapter is that even after all that time apart, Edward and Bella can so selflessly give themselves up to save the other. Very brave on both their parts. And Alice as well, being brave enough to even go to Volterra knowing that there is a good chance she won't survive. Although it could have just been her desperate attempt to keep Jasper from going there and getting killed himself. Either way, Alice is a saint and one of my favorite characters in the entire series [besides Seth! i just love him! :)]
    All in all, I like the Volturi. I think the series wouldn't be what it is without them. And I cannot WAIT for Friday! :D
  • TeamKristen(L)RumpyPumpy
    Ok, big chapter. It's just going to blow is away when we see it on screen. I think it might be the best part of the movie. Kristen, Rob and Chris said that it was one of their favourite parts to shoot.

    I love how in the book and what i have also seen so far in the movie. How Edward is still very protective with Bella in Italy. He shows everyone else he means buisness. He isn't here to play games. But yet, he manages to caress and hsow Bella the love and comfort from Edward she has been dying to recieve for so long.

    Aro's voice in the movie sounds completely different how i imagined it. I imagined it dark, yes, but dripping with sarcasm. I don't know why but everytime he talks i feel like he might over use words. But i love how Michael Sheen did it in New Moon it totally surprised me and i love it. It's fluffy and yet fierce.

    "Alice's expression was frustrated. Edward turned to her and explained again in a swift, love voice. "Marcus sees relationships. He's surprised by the intensity of ours." Aro smiled. "so convenient," he repeated to himself. Then he spoke to us "It takes quite a bit to surprise Marcus, I can assure you." I looked at Marcus's dead face, and i believed that. "It's just so different to understand, even now," Aro mused, staring at Edward's arm wrapped around me. It was hard for me to follow Aro's chaotic train of thought. I struggled to keep up. "How can you stand so close to her like that?" "It's not without effort" Edward answered calmly. "But still - la tua cantante! What a waste!" Edward chuckled one without humor. "I look at it more as a prize." Aro was skeptical "A very high price" Edward replied "Opportunity cost."

    I would have made love to Edward right their and right then. Easily. It's such a curiosity how Edward manages to do it, how he manages to stop himself. It must hurt him so much. Hurt him to be with her, hurt him to be without her. Bella has the easy ride, she's horny. Jacob too, he thinks he has a broken heart. Edward though, it's really hard for him. For leaving me, for being a right pussy, for everything that had happened bewteen hima dn Bella, if i was Bella, i'd have easily forgiven him. Even though she did when she first saw him again.

    "Don't!" Alice cried as Edward launched himself at that little girl. Before i could react, before anyone could jump between them, before Aro's body guards could tense, Edward was on the ground. No one had touched him, but he was on the stone ground withering in agony, while i stared in horror.

    That must hurt like hell. I love hoe bella tried to protect him. I read a New Moon card, and this is a spoiler so you might not want to read it. Bella say soemthing among the lines of "Kill me, have me, i'll sacrifice myself for Edward, just please don't hurt him." Oh everything is just so loverly jubbly and romantic. They'd both sacrifice themselves for each other.

    Finally Alice shows us that Bella, will and soon become a Vampire. I for one nearly broke my bed. I was jumping on it so much. I was so happy. Yippe-de-do-da. LOL. I hope they show the image of Bella as a vampire with Edward.

    If the book didn't have the Volturi in it, i don't think New Moon or the Twilight saga would be as successful as it is today. They make another dark plot in the book. You always need a little bit of anger and suspence in a good book.

    Thanks Stephenies Mum. LOL.

    My favourite vampire is Aro as well. Because i like the name. LOL.
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    WOW, I LOVED your review and completely agree with most of your reasonings and opinions, but once again I have to jump at the chance to defend Jacob because I believe they both share the same pain. Yes it must hurt like hale to be with or without Bella, but all of Edward's pain is self-inflicted in my opinion.

    I mean Edward doesn't trust himself to be with Bella so he hurts his desire and NEED to be with her. Through his worry he doesn't seem to understand that his thirst for her goes beyond his physical lust for her blood, but rather the intense LOVE he feels and can't be without. Thus he can't comprehend the trust Bella (and others like Carlisle) has in him to not hurt her - otherwise she would be afraid of him.

    That's the thing about humans and animals in general, when something dangerous is evident it is instinctual to fear and run away. Bella does not do this, from the beginning she KNEW UNDOUBTEDLY that he wouldn't hurt her. Edward believes that just because he is capable of killing Bella that he will do so, Alice doesn't help either by showing him the two possible outcomes of the predicament he's in: the one where Bella is dead in his arms, and the one with her as an immortal next to Alice. In my opinion this is a simple misunderstanding and a real reliance on Alice's visions, whose are subjective as it is based on the CHOICES people make. At the time Edward's instinctual/"monster" side was contemplating her death in order to relieve the situation, while his other somewhat immortal side was desiring his need and love for her - a desire that would eventually end in her becoming one of them in order for him to have her forever. This is what Alice saw, and this is why Edward is constantly conflicted and hurt, he feels that it's wrong either way so he prevents it by any means necessary even it is to cause him pain..

    This is why -- and despite the fact I know I'll get a whole lot of bashings for it, but I'm going to say it anyway -- I think Edwards somewhat selfish *Ducks head and runs away*....Everything he does and the choices he makes is what he thinks and feels is best. He leaves Bella knowing how much pain and suffering it will cause him but doesn't give a thought to what Bella might feel, He then goes to try to kill himself because he knows he was the cause for her "death" disregarding the consequences it has on others (namely Alice)... Therefore he causes himself pain by not being able to let go and give in to the Love and adoration he bears for Bella.

    Similar in situation to Jacob whose pain is caused by his unwilling desire to let go of Hope - however different in the way he has his pain inflicted by others: Bella's somewhat toying with his heart, Edward for being the prefect man and choice for Bellas Love and the constant reminder from his other Wolfies that Bella doesn't love him like Edward....

    So again I say they share the same pain and hurt in some respects however, recieve and portray it in different ways....
  • Gypsy0531
    *Ducks head and runs away*..... lol
    I am not going to bash :) But me thinks you are somewhat contradicting what you are saying:

    Everything he does and the choices he makes is what he thinks and feels is best I think Edwards somewhat selfish He leaves Bella knowing how much pain and suffering it will cause him but doesn't give a thought to what Bella might feel,


    Yes but what he does he does for bella the choices he makes are what he thinks is what's best for her.

    doesn't this show that he's not selfish but selfless. he leaves bella even though he knows it's going to hurt him, because he wants her to have a normal life and he feels that by staying with her he is being selfish. he is taking things away from her and endangering her life.

    Edward underestimates bella's love for him to edward, bella will suffer for a while but like all humans time "heals all wounds" isn't that what he said to her when he said goodbye. Edward does not realize the intensity of bella's feelings for him so as far as he is concerned she will get over him in time. Had Edward known that his leaving would cause Bella so much pain and suffering he would not have left. all he wanted was for her to get on with her life a normal life. So the choices he made were for her not for him. what did edward get out of leaving bella nothing he was probably more miserable than she was.

    So i don't understand how you see that as selfish.
    Ok I'm done see no bashing :)
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    Hahaha...LOL thanks for not bashing, so I won't either...I do understand your reasoning, and I suppose I should have added his selflessness in there too, because he has no doubt put Bella's needs before his own, but I should also elaborate on the "selfishness" opinion:

    I understand Edward left for her benefit, disregarding his own feelings and opinions, and I understand how he could think Bella would get over him as he has witnessed it throughout the years. However, what I don't understand is how easily he could think that Bella was like any "normal" human. Hasn't Twilight proven that Bella wasn't like any other he's met throughout the years? Isn't this why he was attracted to her in the first place? If she wasn't different, how come he feels so intensely (more than bloodlust) for her?

    Ultimately if he had just pondered over it a BIT more he would have realized the idiocy of his decision. As it highlighted in Midnight Sun Alice confirms that he wouldn't be enable to stay away from her, because of his attraction. For him to underestimate Bella's reciprocating feelings towards him is naive and what I find selfish. He thinks his feelings is the only one that will suffer immensely, and the thing he's prepared to live with, believing Bella will just get over it and thus taking extreme measures...As Laurent says in the film "how much could she mean to him if he was prepared to leave her, unprotected" especially since she has already been exposed to his world.

    I think that even though it was meant to be a selfless decision, it turned out to be selfish because he didn't regard anyone else's feelings towards the decision, especially Bella's....A mistake he often makes throughout the series. So again, it is what HE THINKS is best, and what HE BELIEVES is helping Bella, somewhat putting himself in higher regard as a vampire whose seen and understood humanity more so than that of Bella's human state...
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    Wow. Ok. You make your point very clear, and I do apologise because now I see I've stepped on a few toes.

    I do understand his dilemma, and I do agree with the fact he wouldn't have left had he known the consequences. Yes, he didn't get anything out of it, and that's what I have said before, but again I reiterate that his selfishness came out of his bad judgements and inability to consider or even ask Bella's feelings. He acts selflessly as he puts Bella's needs before his own, but also selfishly as his own decisions are brought about by his preference for his own thoughts as he believes that's what is best (regarding his thoughts above hers or anyone elses), thus causing bad judgments on his part. I should have made this clear before.

    Not all selfish decisions make people feel good, and Edward's undoubtedly make him feel guilty. I'm not saying he's the most selfish guy in the world, far from it, but he is somewhat selfish in his own decisions. Just like Jacob, Bella and other characters in their own way...

    Again I apologise, and I know it's difficult to see my pov, and I guess it's simply due to how we look at the situation, but in no way did I mean to offend you. I guess I shouldn't have brought it up in the first place, but I do take my hat off to you for sharing your thoughts with me =)
  • Gypsy0531
    You have to try to understand Edward’s dilemma. Edward was in a catch 22 situation dammed if you do dammed if you don’t.
    By staying with Bella he would be taking things away from her and because of this he feels that Bella will come to resent him over time. He does not want that to happen. He does not want Bella to go ahead with something (Becoming a vampire) that she cannot turn back from and then have to regret her decision when it is too late. Even if she did not want to become a vampire he would still be taking things away from her.
    If he stayed with her it would cause the both of them suffering and pain. But to him eventually she will go on without him while he continues to suffer.
    What if Bella could go on without him eventually?. How would Edward have known the outcome unless he tried. Edward would have been plagued with doubts.

    Do you honestly think that if Edward had known the outcome that he would have left her. If he understood the intensity and depth of Bella’s feelings for him and that nothing good would have come out of him leaving her would he have taken the same action.

    “I think that even though it was meant to be a selfless decision, because he didn't regard anyone else's feelings towards the decision, especially Bella's”

    That is using bad/poor judgment. You yourself are saying that what he did was a selfless decision. Remember he did not know the outcome. Because it did more harm than good it was a bad call on his part not selfish. As far as not regarding her feelings he knew that she would suffer but only for a while or so he thought. Again that is not being selfish.


    Definition of selfish:
    exclusive regard to one's own interest or happiness; that supreme self-love or self-preference which leads a person to direct his purposes to the advancement of his own interest, power, or happiness, without regarding those of others.

    When Edward left Bella what did he get out of it. Did he get happiness. No. He was in agony and probably more than she was. So how was he being selfish:

    “A mistake he often makes throughout the series. So again, it is what HE THINKS is best, and what HE BELIEVES is helping Bella, somewhat putting himself in higher regard as a vampire whose seen and understood humanity more so than that of Bella's human state…”

    Do the mistakes come from selfishness or bad judgment??????
  • Stephenie_fan65
    Oh, I'm so glad that finally someone mention this chapter on the big screen. There is so much to see! I was so anxious reading this chapter like everyone else, that I rushed through it only to go back and re-read it over and over. I get more each time. It's such a visual chap. I think it will be great to see, I have my own images in my head but they are blurry b/c all I wanted to do was get it over with and then read about them getting back together.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    OME I REALLY HOPE THEY GIVE US A BELLA FLASH...
    CW CAN U HEAR US?
    DO IT!
    even if they put it in the dvd...like since alice is one of the fave charaters...she can have her own little Alice's Visions featurette i need to write these ideas down and pitch to summit asap!

    poor E...lol... opportunity cost...
  • 30yearoldtwifan ☠Team SLADE ☠
    Sorry to be repative I left this no another post. SM answered fan questions. It doesnt look good for a 5th Saga book or MS. SM seems to be on the Host kick. In which all honesty im not to interested in. I think were lucky to get BD made into a movie.

    http://www.thetwilightsaga.com/page/stephenie-m...
  • Wolfi ♥(TEAM LEAH &TOMBAH)
    I LOVE THE VOLTURIIIIIII!!!!!..

    If I hadn’t smelled her through your memories, I wouldn’t have believed the call of anyone’s blood could be so strong. I’ve never felt anything like it myself. Most of us would trade much for such a gift, and yet you…
    Aro, New Moon

    *La tua cantante.*....... her Blood sings to him!!..how lovely!!...
    Bella's Blood is a siren Edwards !!

    ARO ROCKS.. and JANE IS EVILL!!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    Edit...
    Aro scares me...
    Jane scares me...
    Caius needs to go eat someone and chill out...
    Marcus rocks...he says nothing and everything simultaneously...
    lololololololololololol
    *La tua cantante.*
  • vanessainpinks
    "it;s just so difficult to understand, even now," Aro mused staring at Edwards arm around me.- -"How can you stand so close to her like that?"
    "I't not without effort," Edward answered calmly.
    "But still-la tua cantante! What a waste"
    Edward chuckled once without humor. "i look at it more as a price."
    Aro was skeptical. "A very high price."
    "opportunity cost."

    *I love Edward to death( no pun inteneded)! My favorite part of this chapter



    I also love when Bella gets all depressed cause she thinks she will be an immortal annoyance to Edward. serioulsy how can she even now doubt his love for her?



    : 0 oh no the screaming...
  • love at first bite
    i really cant believe its its almost her !!! our NEW MOON is raising and not only werewolf will come out but me and my hysteric friends are ready lol im proud to say that i have made all my guy friend like twilight and they're exited to see it and my mom so here we goooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    luna nueva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *stars dancing with the wolfs*lol

    p.s i know its not on the book but i would love to see the reaction of charlie i mean how he gets mad or worried about bella leaving her a note and not knowing where she was!! por charlie i love the chief ..
  • The creepy way The Volturi relate to each other is because Chelsea bonds them together and that is icky. If she wasn't forcing them to worship Aro, The Volturi and their guard would totally tear each other to shreds. At least the Cullens love each other and act like family. I'm a cow to my brother too and I find Edward and Alice's relationship realistic, especially after reading MS.
  • yasmin1028
    Top 15????? LOL I don't mind it.

    OMG I so love this chapter. I was so worried about what was going to happen.
    Here are a few of my opions / concerns:

    - Why is Caius apart of the Volturi? He doesn't have a special gift.

    - Jane gets on my nerves, when she caused Edward all that pain. I was so upset, it was
    very uncalled for.

    - So love that no one can get to Bella. They were so shocked. Especially jane, I know she was quite upset.

    - I was actually nerves myself waiting on the decison. Aro took forever to let them go.

    - I feel bad for Marcus, he's so bored with life, but can't get away from the Volturi because he's bound to them by Chelsea? (I think that's her name)

    - So love that they were caught off guard by the special and ver strong bond Edward and Bella have ! (jacob who???? Yeah th eyare so meant to be ! ! ! ! )

    In all it was a great chapter it had me so anxious and worried for them all, I read through this non stop to see the out come

    Plan ride home here we come, lol




    Oh yeah . . . . . . .

    4 MORE DAY PEOPLE ONLY 4 MORE DAYS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    In regards to your concerns about Caius, I think originally he Aro and Marcus were the few Vamps that new each other as such, and I think they all shared the concern to keep their existence as much of a mystery from the humans as possible. Aro obviously co-founded and led the group to become the forces that would prevent other Vampires from exposing their secret.

    Also, like SM said, Aro has always desired power, Caius obviously shares the same capacity. Aro also is very deceptive and cunning in his means to gain power so maybe his inclusion of Marcus and Caius as the so called 'other leaders' is just a front (my opinion). If it was just him as all powerful leader then his intentions and true nature would be undoubtedly obvious and easily overthrown, thus he maintains a "shared" (and I say shared because the Volturi guard follow his commands above the others anyway) ruling...But I dunno what do you think? Possible?
  • yasmin1028
    Interesting point of view. I see what you mean by that. Another possible theory; Like you said both Caius and Aro share the desire for power, so maybe that's why he's apart of the Volturi group. Also, it's best to have an odd number of people so that any decison wouldn't end up split. So like you said about them just being a front, I totally agree with you because it's abvious that Aro is the main one. Good opinion.
  • teamtwerd82(billyburkejustis)
    marcus is there because it was the three of them in the begining however he fell in love with aros sister and aro had her killed which is why he doesnt get involved and is so board with being there he has lost his love but he doesnt know it is aro that did it or so it says on s.m website anyways lol x
  • yasmin1028
    Interesting point of view. I see what you mean by that. Another possible theory; Like you said both Caius and Aro share the desire for power, so maybe that's why he's apart of the Volturi group. Also, it's best to have an odd number of people so that any decison wouldn't end up split. So like you said about them just being a front, I totally agree with you because it's abvious that Aro is the main one. Good opinion.
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    Yea, and because He desires power, but has no distinctive ability of his own, being part of the Volturi keeps his needs satisfied. This is probably why he's so 'destroy-everyone-who-we-believe-is-guilty-no-matter-what-their-reason-is". It is the only way he can assert himself as a power to be reckoned with...he has no remorse and mercy *shudder*
  • Daddy_C_4ME
    I...um...read ahead. *blush*. I just couldn't help myself. I know...BAD girl.
  • JVC1012
    I believe in the book Bella say's that Jane and Alec look as if they could be twins, so I think them holding hands is fine. I could be wrong.
  • TeAmJaKesPaCk
    Yea I agree. I think SM said they are twins, and because they're so alike they have a really close bond to each other (both looks and uniqueness ability wise). The whole holding hands isn't meant to be intimate as such but rather an "i-got-your-back-whatever-happens" kinda thing. I also suppose that since they're so young they'll never find another like them to fall in love with (since its forbidden to turn one so young) so they make up for that by displacing they're love and loyalty to each other and the volturi.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    Think of them as weird "The Shining" twins...or I think of them as Villainous WonderTwins... yep...lol
  • adinacullen
    One thing I was wondering about is..heidi is vamp right? So how could she be out "fishing" at noon with the sun shining bright wearing so revealing clothes? I don't I just thought of that last night when I read this..
  • JVC1012
    Yea she was wearing tights under her mini-skirt and she wore like a neck high shirt. But just like I<3Vegetarian Vamps said, she could also be in the shadows.
  • I'm pretty sure the book had her wearing tights under her short mini skirt. I'm not really sure about everything else right off. Maybe she was staying in the shadows...
  • CF Go See Remember Me!!!
    There are so many parts to this movie that I am looking forward to seeing translate on film.

    This is one of them, definitely.

    Probably first and foremost, the bedroom/meteor speech/post Italy scene.

    Second, the break up. I know that I will be a basket case, but I cannot wait to see how this ended up, and Kristen's and Rob's performances.

    And Third, the Italy reunion and the Volturi showdown that follows.

    Fourth, the cliff dive.

    Geez, there are so many.

    I want to see Edward's big entrance at the start and the showdown between Edward and Jacob at the end.

    I want to see Bella's depression and how she copes.

    I want to see Charlie dealing with his daughter.

    So ..... Much ... Stuff.
  • Can't agree with you more. I keep going back and forth about which scene specifically I am most looking forward to seeing. One day it's the reunion scene in Italy and the next it's the bedroom post-reunion scene. I'm all over the place.. I just want to see the movie.... AAAAHHHHHH
  • Nice job MEC! I was totally baffled when I read the part about Gianna! I'm like Bella, what kind of person would want to be part of that! UGGH...
    And I love here how we can almost see through Aro's "kindness" to his real intentions with the Cullen family. He even mentions how great the three of them would be as additions to the Volturi.

    And all through this chapter Bella is still in denial about Edward's love for her. She still believes whole heartedly that Edward does not want her and that he will leave again as soon as the Volturi release them. And because of this she clings so hard to every moment with him. awww..
  • Stephenie_fan65
    I also think Aro realizes that the Cullen clan will be growing, not just in numbers but with 3 special talents. I'm sure Aro senses the danger of allowing such a large and powerful coven to exist.
  • Oh yes definitely. The Volturi are so power hungry that they feel threatened by the Cullens, especially with Bella being a soon-to-be new addition....
  • claracitti
    *Aro continued to drift wnh a thoughtful expression. He was quiet for a moment, his eyes
    flickering between the three of us. Then, abruptly, he shook his head.
    "A first," he said to himself "I wonder if she is immune to our other talents… Jane, dear?"
    "No!" Edward snarled the word. Alice grabbed his arm with a restraining hand. He shook her
    off.
    Little Jane smiled up happily at Aro. "Yes, Master?"
    Edward was truly snarling now, the sound ripping and tearing from him, glaring at Aro with
    baleful eyes. The room had gone still, everyone watching him with amazed disbelief, as if he
    were committing some embarrassing social faux pas. I saw Felix grin hopefully and move a
    step forward. Aro glanced at him once, and he froze in place, his grin turning to a sulky
    expression.
    Then he spoke to Jane. "I was wondering, my dear one, if Bella is immune to you."
    I could barely hear Aro over Edward's furious growls. He let go of me, moving to hide me
    from their view. Caius ghosted in our direction, with his entourage, to watch.
    Jane turned toward us with a beatific smile.
    "Don't!" Alice cried as Edward launched himself at the little girl.
    Before I could react, before anyone could jump between them, before Aro's bodyguards
    could tense, Edward was on the ground.
    No one had touched him, but he was on the stone floor writhing in obvious agony, while I
    stared in horror.
    Jane was smiling only at him now, and it all clicked together. What Alice had said about
    formidable gifts, why everyone treated Jane with such deference, and why Edward had
    thrown himself in her path before she could do that to me.
    "Stop!" I shrieked, my voice echoing in the silence, jumping forward to put myself between
    them. But Alice threw her arms around me in an unbreakable grasp and ignored my struggles.
    No sound escaped Edward's lips as he cringed against the stones. It felt like my head would
    explode from the pain of watching this.
    "Jane," Aro recalled her in a tranquil voice. She looked up quickly, still smiling with pleasure,
    her eyes questioning. As soon as Jane looked away, Edward was still.
    Aro inclined his head toward me.
    Jane turned her smile in my direction.
    I didn't even meet her gaze. I watched Edward from the prison of Alice's arms, still
    struggling pointlessly.
    "He's fine," Alice whispered in a tight voice. As she spoke, he sat up, and then sprang lightly
    to his feet. His eyes met mine, and they were horror-struck. At first I thought the horror was
    for what he had just suffered. But then he looked quickly at Jane, and back to me–and his
    face relaxed into relief.
    I looked at Jane, too, and she no longer smiled. She glared at me, her jaw clenched with the
    intensity of her focus. I shrank back, waiting for the pain.
    Nothing happened.
    Edward was by my side again. He touched Alice's arm, and she surrendered me to him.
    Aro started to laugh. "Ha, ha. ha," he chuckled. "This is wonderful!"*



    I like this chapter because there is a proof for Bella that Edward still loves her so much when he averts Jane's 'curse' from Bella.and I don't like it because the book's ending is so close.Just 3 and a half chapter remains and I adore this chapter because there is 3 and a half days remains until the MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    10? OME!! You are all going to laugh at me... EPIC FAIL on my part... I did up my review last night.... for chapter 22... *FACEPALM*

    OK, I've gotten it done. Sorry, it's not the best I've done - I'm feeling rather like a little kid sneaking their comic book their text book at school, let me tell you! First, here's the note I had ready to go in the OTHER review... *shakes head in shame*

    Alright, first, MY APOLOGIES! As most of you know, the one and only Punchy and I were able to go see Kellan, Chaske and Christian at WEM on Saturday. This was not intended to be an overnight event, but due to stoopid planning on WEMs side, we decided to camp out, so were at the mall for almost a full 24 hours. We had an awesome time, but I only got like 2 hours of sleep. And that was not expected, or I would NOT have been reading way into the wee hours of the night throughout the week.

    As a result, I have had the biggest forking migraine EVER… I compounded the stupidity by heading to a NM party immediately after leaving WEM… and not getting to bed until 1am. Up at 11, since I’m a choir director and had rehearsal. Did rehearsal, skipped church and came home and went to sleep again. Woke up, spent some time with the kids since they were looking particularly neglected and lonesome, and saw just how many people missed me online. Wow. You guys seriously have me concerned for my safety if I don’t get caught up!

    So, here’s how it’s going to go. I’m reviewing this now, will get up my other reviews for the “missing chapters” over the next couple of days. Sorry, that’s just the way it’s gonna have to be… please forgive me? OK, here’s Chapter 21… (like I really NEEDED to add more length to my posts with that long explanation, right? LOL)

    OK, first, Bashy, I love your comments, nicely put. Let me see if I can answer your questions in my review. This one is easy to me - Jane & Alec holding hands… they are older children, are they not? It’s not that uncommon to see siblings holding hands, really.

    First thing about this chapter, is how the Volturi treat Bella. She is a non-entity in their eyes, really. Their biggest concern is that she knows too much. Felix calls dibs on her, Aro doesn’t speak directly to her until Edward flat out tells him to, and they continually discuss her as if she isn’t even there… To me, this shows just how much different and more wonderful the Cullen family is in the world of vampires.

    One thing that you didn’t mention that I noticed… The floor is sloped to the centre with a drain in the middle… that’s a very good indication for what the room is used for… Not to be too crass, but a lot easier for cleanups after dinner, yes?

    Bella’s description of Aro’s physical differences from other vampires is intriguing, I wonder if we will see that in the movie. I agree with you about Aro. I do think that he is slightly unhinged, no doubt about it. He is very much a ceremonial person – all about appearances and protocol, if you will. His need to show people how wonderfully kind and charming he is, yet that sinister layer beneath… just makes me shudder! Jane & Aro… I think that this “light kiss on the lips” is just more of Aro’s pomp and chivalry, myself.

    No, the Cullens have never met the Volturi – Carlisle lived with them for a few decades, but Aro has not seen him since. Anything they knew about the Volturi, they knew from Carlisle.

    Aro covets Edward’s ability. He is most definitely a power-hungry man who wants what he cannot have. Edward’s cautiousness around him is very necessary, I think.

    When we are introduced to Marcus & Caius, we see their unique relationship. And Marcus shows Aro how strong the bond is between Edward & Alice and Edward & Bella… love it. They DO have an amazing bond, even surprising sad, grief-stricken Marcus. How could Jacob fight against that?

    We are introduced to la tua cantante. And Aro, who is 3,000 some-odd years old, is astounded by Edward’s ability to even stand close to Bella. SM uses this opportunity to show us just how potent Bella’s blood is to him, how much of a real struggle he must constantly be in. It makes their relationship that much stronger to me, that he continues in the struggle.

    Aro’s test of Bella’s ability is scary. I can’t imagine her fear and trepidation at being asked to do such a thing – and it is only Edward’s encouragement that gives her enough strength to go ahead and do it. When he asks Jane to test her as well, we once again see the love that Edward has for Bella.

    He KNOWS what Jane can do. And he throws himself in front of her regardless. The description of how he bears it, and how he reacts as he watches Jane attempt to hurt Bella, just speaks volumes. I love that Edward bore it silently – he will not allow Bella to suffer on his behalf if he can help it.

    Jane’s reaction to Bella makes me laugh. Yes, she is a bully - who also has a real jealous streak, not liking anyone to be seen as more important than her. And HATES that she can’t control Bella. The fact that she prepares herself to pounce on Bella is evidence of that. That little girl is evil incarnate, in my mind…

    Aro’s invitation for Edward & Alice to join him was scary enough. But when he extended the same invitation to Bella, my heart nearly stopped. His greediness truly knows no bounds – even his brother is upset by the very thought, but Aro only wants their powers to be within his control. I have to be honest, Jane’s little temper tantrum just made my day there. Oh, how she hates Bella!

    And then, we come to the crux of the problem. What to do with Bella. I feel for her, even as I am frustrated ad her inability to see what Edward feels for her. She once again assumes incorrectly, and it breaks my heart to see her feelings of rejection:

    “Unless you do intend to give her immortality?”
    “And if I do?”
    “Why, then you would be free to go home and give my regards to my friend Carlisle. But I’m afraid you would have to mean it.”
    “Mean it,” I whispered. “Please.”
    Was it really such a loathsome idea? Would he rather die than change me? I felt like I’d been kicked in the stomach. Edward stared down at me with a tortured expression…
    And would it really matter that Alice was willing, would it make any difference if I did become a vampire, when the idea was so repulsive to Edward? If death was, to him, a better alternative than having me around forever, an immortal annoyance? Terrified as I was, I felt myself sinking down into depression, drowning in it…

    And Alice steps in! *sigh* I love Alice! I see what you’re saying about Edward constantly finding Alice annoying, but again, look at it as a sibling thing. We also see a few times where it is mentioned how close Edward and Alice are to each other. My brother and I are the same – I love him dearly, but we poke each other with big sticks… so I don’t hold that against Edward. There’s no doubt in my mind that he would do the same for Alice as she does for them.

    Caius’s warning is simple, yet deadly. He is not very pleased with Aro’s decision, and is frustrated and angry to be denied his form of justice. I don’t think that threat is to be taken lightly, for sure.

    As far as I understand, Heidi’s role within the Volturi is as bait for “food”. I seem to remember reading something where Stephenie clarified that this is actually her power – she draws humans to her even more so than the “normal” vampire would.

    Edward trying to get them out before the tourists arrive is interesting, in that he doesn’t do it just to protect Bella, in my mind. He and Alice have absolutely no desire to be there when the massacre begins, and I’m interested as to how it would have affected them had they witnessed it and smelled the blood… would they have been able to control themselves? Would that have been a real danger? Especially given that Edward hasn’t eaten in quite some time… and would the bloodlust possibly cause him to turn on Bella? Just a thought…

    The little woman whom no one understands really gets to me, just as she does to Bella. How horrifying! To know that something is drastically wrong, and not be able to communicate with anyone – to be surrounded by people, yet truly alone? *shudders* And, despite their best attempts, they still hear them start to scream… I cannot imagine going through that.
  • SC~3rd_Wife(TeamSM)
    As usual, you have said everything that needs to be said. I have just one thing to add. I keep seeing people refer to Jane and Alec as twins. SM never says that the ARE twins. This is Bella's description as we meet Alec:

    "The pale boy in the pearl gray suit could have been Jane's twin. His hair was darker, and his lips were not as full, but he was just as lovely."

    He is not truly her twin, only that they look like they could be - just like Jasper and Rosalie. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way they behave towards each other.

    And I totally agree with what you said about Alice and Edward's relationship. I felt there were plenty of scenes that shows just how much Edward loves and appreciates Alice, although most of that comes from MS and other outtakes/extras in Edward's POV - love being in Edward's head!!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Thanks for that... I seem to remember somewhere that she does say they are siblings. Am looking for the reference right now... OK, the movie description of Alec says:
    CHARACTER DESCRIPTION:

    Alec is a high ranking member of the Volturi Guard. The Volturi were
    waiting to change Alec and his twin sister Jane until they were older,
    but humans tried to burn them at the stake, so the Volturi were forced
    to “change” them while they were young. Since acquiring Alec and Jane,
    the Volturi have seldom needed to fight - their victims are simply
    slaughtered.
    Now, I thought that it said it in the books as well, but I could be wrong... anyway, I'd always thought they were twins, myself.
  • SC~3rd_Wife(TeamSM)
    So, yesterday I wrote this long reply to you and now I'm irritated to see it apparently didn't go through! I don't feel like going through it all again so here it is in a nutshell:

    I did enough review of the book to see the movie description, while not actually in SM's words in books/website, I am pretty sure she would have explained that to CW in the movie making process as an answer to his question. There are a few mentions in the books which lead you to believe that they are biological siblings.

    More concise:
    You are right, I was wrong (although I'm ALMOST always right!!!) LMAO!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    aw, I'm sorry to hear your reply was lost in never-land - that seriously SUCKS...
    I agree, it was my thought that CW would have asked SM about that if he wasn't sure, and she would have corrected if she thought it was wrong...
    LOL - what?! A woman, wrong? Nope, I think the correct response is that you were temporarily mistaken, an error which has since been rectified... ;)
  • AngelStartedMeONVamps
    SNOWY!!

    I've been dieing without your posts all weekend! I'm glad you had fun and got to see some of the hottest men on the planet! I'm so glad your back and I love the review. I didn't notice the whole drain part until this go round. That is sooo disgusting!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Aw, I'm sorry you died... would you like some Rob-i-flu or Taylenol? LMAO
  • TeamSwitzcob (TRotation/Meg)
    Lovely to read your reviews again. :) And I have to comment on your last paragraph.. you're right, it's the little woman with the rosary (she did have one right?) who no one understood that really got to me. It was disturbing.. and so sad. :( She knew something was wrong. I doubt since it was so small a part that they'd have it in the movie.. but I wouldn't mind seeing that.
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Given what we've seen of CW, I'd like to think it will be there - he seems to be a man of detail, and that one small thing just speaks volumes to me...
  • TeamSwitzcob (TRotation/Meg)
    You're right.. guess we'll just have to wait and see! And only 3 more days to see it! ::squeeeeeee!:: hehe
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *sigh* I just want it here already! :( LOL
  • You're Alive!!!!!!!

    Welcome back dearest Snowy. :)
    Been hanging around waiting for you!!!!!

    Great you had a good time, not so good with the dreaded Migrane :{

    Oh I am glad you mentioned the drain, I had to go back the first time and read that again, then the penny dropped what it was for!!!!! Yuk

    Yeh I agree I think Heidi's "talent" or "gift" is attracting the "food", double yuk!!!!! Knowing Aro's way of collecting talented vamps he would have to have someone like her to hand. And Gianna is the human face the prey see on arrival so that they don't baulk and make a run for it.

    I love the way that SM makes you think about each of the Volturi and their reliance on Aro.

    :) super dooper post as usual :)
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    aw, thanks MUSE... I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that small reference to the drain... YUK is the perfect description!

    Yes, SM is ver clever in how she weaves their relationships, I think.
  • Did you find Wolfi's fireplace??????
    LOL
    She waited soooo patiently for you. :D
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    LOL - I know, I felt so bad for letting her down... especially cuz she lets me cuddle by the fireplace, too! :D
  • I suppose that's one way to get a fire started!!!!!!
    LOL
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    I *heart* u.
    Thank you for saying everything i forgot to mention.
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    LOL - you're welcome... I really liked what you said, too....

    I <3 you, too! ;D
  • OhEdward (mouthy since 04/09)
    There you are - you tricky little owl!

    So.................................. killer weekend - hmmmmm?

    I wish I could have been there! I will be looking for your Chapter 22 tomorrow, Silly! ; - D
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    yeah, I'm such a doofus... I'm trying to subtly write Ch. 21 right now, without getting caught at my desk... it most definitely won't be my best one! SMH Yup, killer weekend... ;)
  • Doofus!!! I love it! I haven't heard that word in forever. It is SOO going back into my vocab now!! Thanks snowy....
    How hot was he in person? Seriously???
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *THUD* I, Miss writes-way-too-long-comments... could not put together a coherent sentence. Seriously, just ask Punchy. It was truly, tragically pathetic.... :(
  • TOO TOO funny!! But I have a feeling we would all be the same way were we in your shoes! You lucky dawg you! =D
  • Wolfi ♥(TEAM LEAH &TOMBAH)
    LMAO....*FACEPALM*.....
    Snowy i think your right this responsibility is getting to you...its making you nervous.lol

    well i guess untill tomorrow!!..
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    oh, I'm trying to write it right now... work?! What's that?!?

    *sigh* see what happens when you put me up on a pedestal? LMAO
  • LOL Snowy girl you are too funny! I hadn't read all weekend so I had to do major catching up last night. I didn't write anything. =D
    *facepalm* oops I'm slacking....
    Nice to see you again btw!!!!!
    *hugs snowy*
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *hugs veggie back* I missed you, darlin'... SLACKER! ROFL
  • Nice job girl. Had you not told us, we never would have known you were sneaking this at work *winks at snowy*
    I too love Jane's temper tantrums. It makes my day that Bella stumps her talent as well. Classic.
    And I agree with you about Edward. If we had any doubts whatsoever about his love fore Bella, they are totally extinguished here in this chapter. Gosh it is so moving how he throws himself in front of her when Jane attempts to hurt her. *sigh*
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    LOL - it would be even sadder if no one noticed a decrease in my work output, wouldn't it? ;)
  • I kind of have a good excuse lol. I had a house full of in-laws here during two days without electricity plus my 2 year old's birthday party! HAHA But yes still a slacker. I could have read New Moon by candlelight..... *sigh*
    It was a good spot to be able to read several chapters in a row. I would not have been able to stop had I read them ahead of time =D
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    LOL - I hear you! Give your 2yo a birthday hug from all of us, eh? He cracks me up that you can't post cuz you're changing his dirty diaper... :D
  • LOL you got it. And we got a potty chair from the in-laws for his birthday so hopefully sometime soon that will no longer be an issue! hahaha
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    LOL - glad to hear... ;)

    OK, my review is up... and now I have to do some work to catch up... dur... *facepalm*
  • I´ve been waiting for the comments of you both and missing them so much.
  • DA I missed you too girl. I promise I'll be back on my "A" game tomorrow. I'm sure Snowy will be as well =D....
  • I can hear self-importance and mockery in Alec´s voice. I get goosebumps.
    „They send you out for one and you come back with two ... and a half,“ he noted , looking at me. „Nice work.“
    „Welcome back, Edward,“ Alec greeted him. „You seem in a better mood.“ „Aro will be so pleased to see you again.“
    Alec examined me as I clung to Edward´s side. „And this is the cause of all trouble?“ he asked , skeptical.
    And even more goosebumps:
    The strange vampire turned and smiled at Edward like a fond but scolding grandfather. „What did I tell you? Aren´t you glad that I didn´t give you what you wanted yesterday?“
    „Aro needs physical contact to hear your thoughts, but he hears much more than I do. You know I can only hear what´s passing through your head in the moment. Aro hears every thought your mind has ever had.“
    „Marcus sees relationships. He is surprised by the intensity of ours.“
    And an overwhelming feeling of Edward´s love for Bela; how deep it is.
    „How can you stand so close to her like that?“
    „It´s not without effort,“ Edward answered calmly.
    „If I hadn´t smelled her through your memories, I wouldn´t have believed the call of anyone´s blood could be so strong.“
    „But your restraint!“ Aro sighed. „I did not know such strength was possible. To inure yourself against such a siren call, not just once but again and again – if I had not felt it myself, I would not have believed.“
    „His eyes met mine, and they were horror-struck. At first I thought the horror was for what he had just suffered. But then he looked quickly at Jane, and back to me – and his face relaxed into relief.“
    Nevertheless, Bella is so unsure of his love...
    „...would it make any difference if I did become a vampire, when the idea was so repulsive to Edward? If death was, to him, a better alternative than having me around forever, an immortal annoyance? Terrified as I was, I felt myself sinking down into depression, drowning in it...“
    and compassionate with others
    I could feel the horrified expression on my face, and the tears beginning to pool in my eyes.
  • *sigh*
    La tua cantante..... *sigh again*
    I love the way Aro describes Bella and Edward's relationship. And the fact that he is sooo immensely interested in the two of them is fascinating.
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    *sigh*
    Siren Song
    "Her blood sings for me"
    *sigh*
  • I'll sing for him any day!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    Mee Too...
    Although... I want him to retain his hearing...so maybe i shouldnt...
    This line always kills me tho... Alice was like "whats this about singing!?!"
    Its the perfect description...Hale! I want someone to want me that BAD!...yeesh... that line is going to create a lot of opportunities for any straight men at the theatre...i mean seriously they could just quote Edward and I think my shamanties would fall off...
  • LMAO that is too funny! Yes, boys should be taking lessons for Edward.
    *shouts at all men* HEY GUYS! Take a pen and some paper to New Moon
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    Seriously...picture ur hugest crush (except rob) whispering La Tua Cantante to you... *chills*...shamanties on sale 2 pack at robsessed.com
  • LOL.... I think those three words alone might get me pregnant. Hahaha.... *runs to tell hubby to read New Moon chapter 21*
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    ooh.... i foresaw this... twilight should make isle esme condoms... Saga supports safe house breaking...lol
  • LMAO.... that's a good idea!!!! *sigh* Isle Esme *sigh*
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    yea... im ok with the feathers and splinters thing... but the inhuman/un-vampiric-renesmee-bones-busting-baby-born-with-teeth? Cant do it... must bring contraceptives... i mean Edward is quite potent...u gotta wonder if Rob is the same...
    *thinking face*
    yea just to be sure...lol
    I mean it is the Bermuda Triangle...
  • my alter eggo♥Tyler & Caroline
    Bomb diggidy :)
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    TOP 10!!!!!
    6? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
    Edit
    I personally love Alice and Edward's relationship... they are linked in a way that none of the other cullens are...I think they behave much like brother and sister... Its how I am with my brother... remember that Edward never intended Bella to become a Vampire... Imagine Alice forseeing that future and beacuse they are constantly in each other's heads having to face the future you didnt want for the one person you would die for...knowing that in your heart your probably dooming them to eternal damnation...He doesnt wanna change Bella, but he realizes that at some unforseeable point (Alice's visions are not perfect) that he will be once again forced to choose, and losing her this time is going to be the final straw for him. Alice knows that he will eventually do the one thing that he wants nothing more than to prevent...
    Also Alice mentions that she thinks the whole thing is silly (Bella staying human)...relying heavily on her visions and whatever certainty they provide. Imagine having access to your worst nightmare every day...as soon as she thinks it...u see it...its like having a protective sister that always tells u what to do...mind u she's almost always right...lol...but that just makes it worse doesnt it?...personally I agreed with Alice completely...Changing Bella would have wrapped the whole story up quickly though...following Wolf Pack War and possible deaths...which would have sucked...Glad that SM dragged out the experience into BD...

    I Love Everything about this chapter, I am also obsessed with the Volturi...and especially the relationships they have with one another...and if I picked a favorite member? Aro's deceivingly gentle nature scares the Hale outta me...Caius has no additional powers except a war-like contempt for all humanity...and Marcus...I would say he's my favorite... Alec and Jane are the unstoppable villainous versions of the wonder-twins...

    One more comment...
    The lady clutching the crucifix made my heart palpitate...I was screaming get bella out of there!
  • shortypie
    Im also very intrigued by the Volturi n I dont like how theyve been portrayed in these trailers. And since the Volturi r very ancient I think its just culture 4 them 2 hold hands n kiss one another.I cant wait 4 da movie!!!!!!!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    yea... for them its no big deal... also their relationships are odd...they do in some odd way have love for one another...but many of these relationships are based on power structure...so portraying them accurately is going to be difficult...so much of their backstory and important elements of their character development cant all be included...i think CW is going to do his best...but the volturi are hard...especially Aro...and Marcus...I think Caius is more straightforward...idk we're gonna love it either way *crosses fingers*
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Nicely said, Ice, and congrats on #6 - woohoo!
    I agree with everything you said... ;)
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    thank u Snowy i feel like my habit is so supported here...haha
  • Bravo ICE!!! Well said. The little woman made me so sad. She knew something wasn't right the whole time. Poor thing.
    And I too love Alice and Edward. They're like the greatest brother/sister pair ever!
  • ICB *Sethward Saves the Day*
    I know... their relationship is such a huge part of the drama that ensues, their closeness does so much for the story for me...One thing I did like about CH...she knew how to cast, they interact well on screen... and I love how she introduces Alice to Bella... it captures her personality so well...awww shes my little neck snapper! (haha James)!
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  • Team banana <3 June
    Fourth? I can dig it lol
  • bella7
    3?
  • TLG_CANTreadSAGAon_POTTY
    FIRST

    YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!

    I got first on premiere day!!!!!!!

    *throws buckets of Unicorn Confetti*

    Okay, I need to go change my name. No more potty. This is an important day!
  • CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is BIG... good job!!
    *throws even more Unicorn Confetti*
  • FTW - Mrs. Tyler Hawkins
    woo hoo! congrats! :)
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