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Real Life Quileute: The Effect ‘Twilight’ Has Had on Their People

by LMCullen on February 8, 2010 · Comments

in Twilight

NYTimes.com has a very interesting article that looks deeper into the toll that Twilight has taken on the Quileute people. Yes — there is a new found fame for the Forks Washington area and Quileute people and their reservation. But things aren’t always as they seem  -

To millions of “Twilight” fans, the Quileute are Indians whose (fictional) ancient treaty transforms young males of the tribe into vampire-fighting wolves. To the nearly 700 remaining Quileute Indians, “Twilight” is the reason they are suddenly drawing extraordinary attention from the outside — while they themselves remain largely excluded from the vampire series’ vast commercial empire.

Just last month, MSN.com issued an apology to the Quileute for intruding on its territory while videotaping a “Twilight” virtual tour in September. MSN.com sought permission from the Chamber of Commerce in nearby Forks, Wash., but didn’t pay the same courtesy to the Quileute. The video team trespassed onto a reservation cemetery and taped Quileute graves, including those of esteemed tribal leaders. These images were then set to macabre music and, in November, posted on MSN.com. The tribe quickly persuaded MSN.com to remove the Quileute images.

But this was only one episode in the story of the tribe’s phenomenal, and apparently increasing, new fame. “Twilight” has made all things Quileute wildly popular: Nordstrom.com sells items from Quileute hoodies to charms bearing a supposed Quileute werewolf tattoo. And a tour company hauls busloads of fans onto the Quileute reservation daily. Yet the tribe has received no payment for this commercial activity. Meanwhile, half of Quileute families still live in poverty.

It’s important to point out that the outside uses of the Quileute name, from the “Twilight” books to the tattoo jewelry, are quite likely legal. American intellectual property laws, except in very specific circumstances, do not protect indigenous peoples’ collective cultural property.

In fact, many businesses use tribal names without involving the Indians themselves. Consider, for example, well-known products like Jeep Cherokee trucks, Oneida flatware and Apache helicopters — none of which are officially associated with Indian tribes. (The Quileute say they have never been contacted by Ms. Meyer or any of those who use the Quileute name for merchandising.)

The most significant federal law that addresses the marketing of Indian cultural goods — the Indian Arts and Crafts Act, passed in 1935 — is meant to ensure truth in advertising. It requires that any artistic products claiming to have a tribal origin are in fact produced by that tribe. Hopi kachina dolls, for example, must be Hopi-made. But it does not come into play for the Quileute hoodies, jewelry or other goods, because there is no claim they were made by the Quileute.

Read more after the break!

So what can be done? Even absent legal protection, the Quileute should be able to have a say in, and benefit financially from, outsiders’ use of their cultural property.

Many Indian tribes develop markets for their own cultural property — or at least the part of it that is not deemed sacred and therefore private. Some have introduced culturally appropriate commercial products — Navajo rugs, for example, or Potawatomi porcupine-quill earrings — to educate non-Indians about their traditions or to earn a living.

The Quileute are likewise eager to share their tribal culture, even if the interest in it was created primarily by Hollywood. The Quileute welcome outsiders, as my own interactions with them have confirmed. When hordes of “Twilight” fans showed up in La Push in 2008, the tribe, as a sovereign Indian nation, could have closed its reservation, but tribal members chose not to do so.

I only have one thing to say about this — if there are Quileute people living in poverty. Then their tribe should be receiving some (if not a huge chunk) of the money they Quileute name has made via merchandising.

Check out the rest of the very interesting article here!

[Image Source: Neil Swaab via NYTimes]

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  • nicole
  • gangsta paigy19
    Just give them some MOOLAA!!! :D Im happy we're not annoying them though cuz one day i plan to visit Forks and La Push. :) Can't wait for teh day . . . :)
  • uinen
    That is wrong but also the easiest thing to do. Take what you can and give nothing back (I believe is a Jack Sparrow quote from PotC, but it's still true).
    How can they go to bed and sleep on their millions knowing that they robbed somebody who is struggling from day to day.
  • I cannot agree more.
  • mAriE_KStew'sMyCherryBomb~6/09
    i have two things to say about this:

    respect the Quileute tribe and give them some benefit for using their name

    and

    MSN! YOU suck! BIG TIME! *gives MSN the finger*
  • lyra_nicole
    I would like to make one point. Whoever wrote this article did NOT research completely the examples of businesses using tribe's names without involving the Indians themselves. Oneida Flatware is one of the examples listed in the quote bellow is named not after the Indian tribe but after the city which the flatware is produced. I am actually from the city of Oneida and I think that this gives Oneida Flatware a bad name because it makes it out like they are stealing the name of a tribe(the Oneida Indian res is about a ten min drive from Oneida NY where Oneida Flatware is made) when that is not the case at all. Before you write an article that includes examples you might want to research those examples or else you will end up sticking your foot in your mouth!!!!

    "In fact, many businesses use tribal names without involving the Indians themselves. Consider, for example, well-known products like Jeep Cherokee trucks, Oneida flatware and Apache helicopters — none of which are officially associated with Indian tribes. (The Quileute say they have never been contacted by Ms. Meyer or any of those who use the Quileute name for merchandising.)"
  • Jess aka MoonDawg
    What an enlightening article! I am a full-blown paleface and it shames me to see or hear about situations such as this. Come on, people! Wake up and stop being so insensitive and cruel! I agree that they were here 1st and should be treated with the dignity and respect as such. How would the "white" world like it if a band of Native Americans (or any other culture for that matter) went stomping on family cemeteries, religious site or even graves of JFK or Abe Lincoln, etc.? This is 2010 for crying out loud. Give credit (and respect) where it is due! And yes, if any group is to have monetary gain from tours of Quileute lands, it should be the Quileute people!!!!!!
  • That is really to bad that this is happening! Is there a solution?
  • ocnlvr
    That is a sad story. You would think Stephenie Meyer would need to have Quileute Tribal permission to use them in a story. Hasn't she met the tribe on one of her many excursions to Northern Washington? This is such a shame for a nice group of people (although I haven't met them).
  • KStewfan - Team Bada$$ Stew!!
    This is truly said :( It makes me sick to my stomach that SM/Summit have used the Quileute name and not given them anything in return. We as fans should help support the Quileute people by making a purchase if you visit their reservation ... I hear they have a gift shop there so help them out if SM/Summit won't .. buy something from them!!

    I am going to be visiting Forks & La Push with my sister either at the end of this year or next year and you better believe I will be giving the Quileute people some of my money.
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    MSN sucks. As do any companies or business who are profiting and not even considering the Quileute people. It truly blows my mind that tour buses just show up and don't even speak to the elders of the tribe about accessing reservation property?

    The laws in the US seriously need to be looked at. But I think, more importantly, we should look at their reaction.

    Are they angry? Are they fighting back? From what I'm reading here, they still welcome fans with open arms and hearts. And THAT is the true lesson here.
  • The Popper
    I think.. SM's story is just like any other, where 1 uses a real name in a fictional light, in this case a tribe. But when u think about it, ALOT of writers/stories use tribal names, group names, specifics, REAL names of ppl, but not just nationally, worldwide as well. Ex. african tribes like zulu tribes, or even refer'n to ppl as wholes/generally, like spainards, russians, chinese. I know this article is specifically talking about Quiletes, but it implies, in my opinion, that if some1 in a story said ANY group's name, even something general, like 'americans', that group should recieve monetary gain. In that case, if some1 referred to an American gang like bloods or crips, does that imply we pay those gang members for using their name?..

    I understand the article, but it seriously lacks. I do believe that SM, knowing what her story has gained, should help out the Quileute people, there is no reason not to, and they are acommadating HER fans, there are less than 1000 ppl & some living in poverty. I'm sure, SM could afford to spare a couple of mil.

    I also wish humans would respect eachothers beliefs, just b/c it is something u don't believe in, doesn't mean u shouldn't have respect for the ppl who do, but we all know how humans are...*sigh*.. w/ that said.. MSN.. go bleep urself, you flipping blurps.
  • nah i dont think the story lack. its very specific about indian tribes. they've beared the worst in history on this soil. americans and indian tribes are diff. anyone can be american but not everyone is indian. and what they hold sacred is diff from what we consider sacred.

    maybe they dont wanna accept $? yes SM could spare a mil.

    LOL @ flipping blurps!
  • The Popper
    nutty.. thats no diff than any other tribe, african, south amer, north amer, they all have diff beliefs, & we should respect the. but theres no way i can justify who's had it worst in "the good ole US of A." I know every1 has had their fair share, & i don't know if other countries pay royalties or assist other tribes of other nations. I'm just saying for using their name, The Quiletues, regardless if its a native amer. tribe, that, that implies payment, but maybe i'm wrong, maybe it does.

    im thinking the prob dont want $ either.. *sigh*.. well, i guess i would just have to help them out personally.. i think i can figure out how to work.. lol..
  • 5/09 LWNV - CHASKE felt my A$$
    Look at my comment up above. Chaske believes that 1 person can cause a change. Will u help me research my idea so WE can make a change?
  • oops i forgot to add ONE of the groups who's beared a lot of hardship but one of the few that STILL do. their still discriminated against and oppressed. which is sad. :(

    well i guess the law says it does from what i read but maybe it doesn't include them or unless they demand it?

    i meant that americans dont need royalties. but native americans do, its the least we can do.
  • The Popper
    I completly understand what your saying.

    Well, i wish I knew more about if they do or dont get anything, i know about the reservations, but thats about it.. and like I said maybe they should, if they don't, and if they do, they need MORE, but idk, and it is sad, too many are still oppressed and it is all very sad.  




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  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    I understand what you're saying - my concern is more with those who are profiting from something far more personal - tour buses traveling across their reservation, MSN defiling their sacred places... that sucks big time. "flipping blurps" LOL
  • The Popper
    i know, what jerks.. msn is profiting from the tribe directly, they need to pay up... i say we go and find those ppl's (msn's) family plots & have a lil dance of our own on them, see how they like it ... hehe...

    but thats just me.. & i'll try very hard not to influence others.. lol.. so um.. where are my mud boots & the keys to my bus thats seats 30 w/ plenty of room if any one wants to tag along.. *snickers*..
  • thats why i love and admire indegenous culturues over the modern one and wish we still lived like they do. their lives are or were simple. they respect nature and recognize it as their mother who gives them life. they value tradition and culture and pass it down to generations. they have it figured out, we don't.
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    They say history is the best teacher. It's too bad more of us aren't better students, right?
  • well history is one of my fave subjects. i love reading about it, and i always try to never make the same mistake twice.
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    History is fascinating, but I still manage to make the same mistakes over and over... LOL
  • well personally i do too but not when it comes to history or failed attempts lol
  • TeamSwitzcob (TRotation/Meg)
    Hear, hear. You said everything I was thinking. I mean how low can people get? They are people, too, and they deserve the same respect that we ask for. Their *land* deserves the same respect. What really pissed me off is the taping of something sacred to them and turning it into a joke.

    This is just upsetting.. it really is.. especially because of how welcoming they are. smh.
  • Jani
    What if we Twilight fans started some charitable fund or something that went directly to the Quileute reservation? You know, that would be a good way to show our appreciation.
  • 5/09 LWNV - CHASKE felt my A$$
    Most NA communities have products that they sell (points to Hopi, etc. mentioned in the article) Instead of insulting the People, what if we looked into buying REAL items instead of ones endorsed by Summit?

    Then we get the benefit of beautiful hand crafted workmanship and they get the cash and appreciation the deserve as a sovereign nation. I am going to look into doing that.

    I am proud to be 'adopted' by a NE NA family with 2 tribes in my history (Not enough blood to approach the tribes. So I try not to advertise this fact - it is insulting NA to hear every Tom, Dick, and Harry claim they are NA and can't prove it as they are not card carrying or raised in the way of the tribe they are claiming). I have beautiful hand crafted pieces from many Native American tribes in my home. As a proud wolf pack lover I would hate myself for suporting NON AUTHENTIC products.

    Quileute Reservation can be found online I believe...

    BTW this story breaks my heart. I will write to NMM.org with what I find...
  • PVSNH_Furbol_(Team Alcide)
    That's a very nice idea, however giving charity to someone who hasn't asked for it is robbing of all that is left of their dignity, don't you think :/ Clearly the root of the problem are the laws that allow such discrimination! But what do you want to do about it? Maybe if ALL Twilight fans signed some sort of petition it might work, because recent mobilization for Haiti stands as a proof that we can change things. If there are any lawyers reading these comments- could you explain how it really works? But the first thing to do would be to ask Quileute what they think about all of this! I am surprised that Stephenie Meyer didn't contact them at least after she realised her book became popular, and that Summit makes money on Quileute name but doesn't share it with them, but I am at least glad they were determined to get Native Americans to play Quileutes in the movies!
    That's such an unfair world where you give to people abroad but let suffer those who live next to you...
  • Marrymerobert
    That cartoon dude looks like Quentin Tarantino!
  • Ronnie5683
    Pay those people. Goverment & Movie house are always cashing in on other people. Jeez
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI
    OMG that picture... its just LMAO
  • TeamKristen(L)RumpyPumpy
    I know i don't post here anymore. But i've decided i missed you all and i'm back with pure epicness
  • why i did get the notion that that old saying.. "Sure you can trust the government, Just ask any indian" applies here. This is unfair to the Quiluete people. And to top it all or Stephanie Meyer didnt even ask their permission. Now i love twilight as much as the next person but really people? when the author herself, a strong religious adult didnt even think of asking..... grrrr, another snubbing of a minority...shame on everyone involved ( minus the Quiluete of course)
  • Agree!
  • Thank you for posting this! I agree money should be used to help. If they want it and want help. Not all tribes want help. I respect their decision whatever it may be.

    I have driven through many reservations in the SW USA. It is sad to see the conditions NATIVE Americans live in. We as a country should be ashamed for what others have done in the past to this individuals that where here first! We weren't and we took, took, took!

    Enough being on my soapbox...sorry! Sorry if there are any grammar/spelling issues.
  • TsOsY
    I do agree to a certain extent. There are other authors like Tony Hillerman that wrote books about Navajos. Some of what he wrote about our culture is not true. I do believe The Quil. should get some kind of pay since the Twilight tour from forks washington advertises La Push beach which is their land. It's about time someone has brought this to our attention. Summit needs to cough up some money. On the other hand, I thinks its cool they use Real Natives in the Movie~Taylor on the other hand is Part~a tiny bit. I don't know what's different, Mattel Came up with Navajo Barbies~Navajo Code Talker Ken barbies? I really don't think we (navajos) never really seen any of the money. It would have been nice, They could have donated some to the Navajo Nation Schools or The Navajo Nation Scholarship. Anyway, I love the Twilight Saga.
  • bella vita
    Sadly I'm pretty sure that neither the Navajo nor any other tribe has ever actually seen so much as a penny from the Barbies you mentioned or any other use of a tribe's name for a product, film, book, ect. Wonderful world we live in isn't it? Still you're right, at least they do use real natives in the films unlike most movies that will just toss in anyone that has a dark or olive complexion with dark hair and call them a native.
  • TsOsY
    My fiance was in a small part in a film in a Native AMerican movie. So I do actually appreciate producers and directors wanting to stick with real Natives~Not dark italians...etc.
  • agreed, *raises glass*
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    I hate to say it, but North America is still filled with racism towards Native communities.
  • miralobien
    couldnt agree more.
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    I doubt the Quileutes will see any money.
    Are American natives supported by the govermnent, too?
    In Canada, they are. And the money would probably go to Canadian government, which would "divide it equally" amongst the native community and themselves.
    Meaning.. Government = 75%, Natives = 25%
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *sigh* I hate to tell you this, darlin', but your numbers are off. More like Gov't = 95%, Natives = 5%... :(
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    Yeah.
    Did you read about Hobbema (sp), and the little girl?
    I believe the paper said that they knew who the shooter was, but he is just now being charged. Poor little baby!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Yup. I actually deal with a lot of aboriginal accounts, and you know what? They are usually the nicest ones to deal with!
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    Nah uh, I am!
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    Nah uh, I am!
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    Well, yeah, you are - but I was meaning in my job... you aren't planning on facing financial difficulties in your commercial business, are you? *glares at Punchy* LOL
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    er..
    um..
    Perhaps.

    "Snowwwwwwy.
    I'm broke.
    Please you are to give me a loan and forget where you put the papers so I get free money? kthxbai!"
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *shakes head sadly* oh, darlin'.... don't you think I'd have done that for myself a loooong time ago if I could figure out how to get away with it? LOL
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    well thats what I thought those offshore accounts were..... uh....
    oops
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    SHUSH!! *glances around office and glares at Punchy, whispering* you're gonna blow my cover, dammit!
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    Sorry.
    Give me $50, 000 and I wont mention where.. *glares*
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *cocks eyebrow* you did NOT just threaten me?! Do you KNOW how much pressure and stress I am under right now?! Do you WANT me to go Bridezilla on your @$$?! *runs away crying hysterically*
  • HugAVampire_PunchAWerewolf
    *hugs*
    wuv u
  • Snowy 05/09 Remember Rob!
    *sniff* I love you, too. But don't you EVER do that again!!
  • ancha85
    I totally agree. It is not right for their name to be used and their rez to be invaded, without them receiving some benefit from it.

    I know that no one involved in making Twilight expected it to be so big, but there should be some kind of organization to help the Quiluete people prosper.
  • i feel bad for them now...they need to be recieving loads of this twilight money
  • miralobien
    I genuinely feel bad for this tribe who has had to endure so much media at their front door that was completley unsolicited by them. It's a shame we live in a world that can do this to impovirished people in their backyard, but send millions to those impovirished overseas. It's a real shame.
  • MrsRobynCullen
    Thats terrible :( Poor Quileute folk :(
  • poor ppl... being envaded by out twilight Mania!! :( that's just their life and ppl take them as fictional characters brought to life...
  • I feel so bad for the Quileute tribe. Native Americans have been given the short straw since their land was invaded by the pale faces. Being both white & part Native, I am always torn on subjects like this. But being fair is fair. The Quileutes deserve monetary compensation for their part in the book series but the ESPECIALLY deserve respect to go onto their land & take images of their ancestors.

    That was is poor taste MSN!
  • BMW328
    agreed! The Native American people went through a genocide and this crap happens all the time. Marketers using cheap techniques to sell a product. The Quileute people should be getting their dues.
  • bella vita
    I'm both white and part native too and AMEN to everything you said! Short straw indeed! To me the trespassing onto the reservation by MSN is bad enough, but to enter a reservation cemetery (which FYI is extremely sacred ground pale faces) and film the graves of not just any tribe members, but the graves of ELDERS without asking permission from the tribe is so appalling and disrespectful it makes me absolutely sick. MSN might as well have come in and spit on those graves because what they did is equally disrespectful.

    This whole story just makes me so mad and ashamed of the behavior of Summit, Stephenie, the merchandising companies, some fans, and anyone else profiting from use of the Quileute name or disrespecting their culture and land. Its awful and wrong. I wish there was something we as fans could do to help and RESPECTFULLY show that we support the REAL Quileutes and back them up 100% on this. Its just very tricky because unless they ask for the help any offer from fans could just be insulting to them. I have no idea of the Quileutes thinking on that kind of thing because its very different within every tribe, but it would be really great if we could find a way do something.
  • TeamSwitzcob (TRotation/Meg)
    I can't help but think if word of this - by the fans - gets to SM maybe she could do something. It should have been thought of by her right from the start, but if she knows that enough of us are pissed off by this then maybe she could get the word out there and find out if the Quileutes would be willing to work something out so they could receive some compensation.
  • C shell - Team Shoulder Biter
    Wow, I never thought to correlate vampire encroachment on Quileute land in SM's world with actual history... especially with the vamps referred to as "pale faces." That's really interesting.
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    1st! *does happy dance*

    The tribe has received no payment for all that commercial activity?! That's ridiculous!
    They have every right to receive payment!
  • MissMara_Team Kiwi
    congrats sweetie *throws rob-confetti*
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    Thanks hon! *dances in confetti*
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    Wooo!! Congrats Sis (:
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    Thanks baby sis! *does clumsy happy dance*
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    *supports DDB's arm* Careful there Sis!! (:
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    *blushes*
    Yaayyy!! I was afraid you were gone already *sad eyes*
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    No no I'm still here!!
    You weren't around to share the Eclispe still moment with!! ): *sniff*
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    I am soo sorry I missed that! I was watching Mama Mia with my mom. And then BLF texted me about the stills and I started screaming and running to Little Eddie. I did reply to some people. But there were like 330 comments already so I didn't even bother to comment. It was a memorable moment though, I'm really sorry I missed it *grabs tissue*
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    No worries as long as you've seen it! I swear my heart stopped beating for like a minute and then when it finally came back, it wasn't beating in my chest but in my head!! What a wild moment...... Hey how about we enjoy the moment together now?? I'll start!!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OMFG!!!!
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    Mine too! I started squeaking and screaming and my heart was going 100mph!
    Ok:) *looks at stills again* OOOHHH...MY....FREAKIN'.....GOOODDD!!!!!!!!!!
    *jumps up and down* Omg can you imagine Rob's hand on your thigh?! I would faint!
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    How she survived through that, I'll never know!! Kristen Stewart count yourself the luckiest woman alive!!
    Wait hold on....... Are you a Robsten believer??
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    She sure is *sigh*
    Of course I am! What kinda girl do you take me for!
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    I take you for a amazing yet clumsy, clever yet obsessed kind of girl (:
    Well then you agree when I say I wonder how she survives when they do that off screen *wiggles eyebrows*
  • DDB_DazzledByRob TeamElevator
    Aww *blushes*
    Yup I totally agree! Another thing we have in common:)
    I'm going to bed sweetie!
    Talk to you tomorrow.
    Sweet Rob dreams baby sis.
    xx
  • JMG (: Team V-Necked Edward
    Nigh night!!
    Sweet Rob dreams
    Love most you!! (:
    xx
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